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Post by greenalert on Oct 22, 2007 18:57:42 GMT
Hi all
I am working on a private project at the moment & need to know the cost levied by the various boards on some Scottish Rivers for each salmon caught whether returned or not
The Rivers in question being (listed in no particular order)
1: The Tweed
2: The Spey
3: The Don
4: The Dee
5: The Tay
6: The Deveron
7: The Findhorn
I would have assumed the information would have been in the public domain, but cannot find anything on it, I suppose the information require could be obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.
If anyone can help I would be most obliged
Thanks
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Post by Willie Gunn on Oct 22, 2007 19:08:06 GMT
The usual method for Scottish Boards to raise revenue is by assessments. The local district valuer sets the rateable value, of the beats,then the board set the rate. I think the Tweed is different.
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Post by greenalert on Oct 22, 2007 19:13:11 GMT
Thanks for that Malcolm, would I have to contact the various boards for a figure?
Cheers
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Post by Willie Gunn on Oct 22, 2007 19:19:15 GMT
Thanks for that Malcolm, would I have to contact the various boards for a figure? Cheers No because it is not the way the assessment is set. The district valuer sets the rateable value for each beat.
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Post by greenalert on Oct 22, 2007 19:27:55 GMT
Thanks for that Malcolm, would I have to contact the various boards for a figure? Cheers No because it is not the way the assessment is set. The district valuer sets the rateable value for each beat. Thanks again Sorry if I am being a bit naive, but would I have to ask the district valuation offices for details on each individual beat?
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Post by tweedsider on Oct 22, 2007 19:48:53 GMT
Greenalert I think the Tweed is a set charge per fish recorded as caught on that beat, this does not vary from beat to beat and may be in the range of over £60 per salmon and somewhat less for seatrout. Try some of the contacts on , Fish Scotland tomorrow.
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Post by Willie Gunn on Oct 22, 2007 19:57:01 GMT
Thanks again Sorry if I am being a bit naive, but would I have to ask the district valuation offices for details on each individual beat? The district valuer bases his valuation on other variables a long with the catches. Catches will have some bearing BUT it is not the only criteria, you might struggle to see the connection between rod catches and the rate
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Post by builnacraig on Oct 22, 2007 21:23:59 GMT
There are two aspects here, the rateable value of the river (as set by the local assessor) and the rate per £ (as set by the DSFB to raise funds to cover operating expenses). I know that in the SW of Scotland, the rate per £ ranges from around £0.36 to over £1.00, as each river has different requirements and expenses. The rate is not levied per fish but a rate is set for each beat according to the assessors valuation of what the beat should produce.
The whole thing is a minefield as there is no consistency between the valuations placed by different local assessors, no surprise, why should there be or how could there be? This is why the ASFB have now changed their levy system for member DSFB's to a rate per fish caught based on the 5 year rolling average, rather than being based on the local assessment of each river.
Greenalert, you may find difficult to get an answer to your question although I suggest that you contact the ASFB who may be able to help.
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Post by greenalert on Oct 23, 2007 18:01:25 GMT
Thanks for all the replies lads
A veritable minefield methinks
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2007 23:11:09 GMT
This year the Tweed levy is £49.50 per salmon taken on the beat, but I am currently checking reports that £15 per salmon returned is also applied, that is for a fish reported but returned.
The Tweed rate is generated by the beat's number of fish as a ratio to all fish caught on the river, divided into the Commissioners annual allocated budget for that year. The beat fish count is calculated on a 5 year rolling average.
+ £14 if its a Tuesday , but less three pounds if the sun shines all day !
The freedom of information act will not do what it says on the tin in this respect. Only overall river catches will be made known as is legally required.
M
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