conwyrod
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Autumn on the Conwy
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Post by conwyrod on Jan 2, 2009 20:31:09 GMT
The Spindle Fly is described in this month's T&S (page 26). It looks like a brass tube with a conehead, a bucktail wing, on a Devon mount and is fished using a spinning rod. I suppose this: 1) Proves salmon are basically stupid and will take anything (even a wobbled carrot) if it's in the mood. 2) Will open up a big debate about what is fly fishing and what is spinning. To be fair to the inventor, he does say it has not been designed to circumvent 'fly only' rules. If that's the case, perhaps he shouldn't have used the word 'fly' when naming his creation.
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Speyducer
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Post by Speyducer on Jan 2, 2009 21:02:41 GMT
The Spindle Fly is described in this month's T&S (page 26). It looks like a brass tube with a conehead, a bucktail wing, on a Devon mount and is fished using a spinning rod. I suppose this: 1) Proves salmon are basically stupid and will take anything (even a wobbled carrot) if it's in the mood. 2) Will open up a big debate about what is fly fishing and what is spinning. To be fair to the inventor, he does say it has not been designed to circumvent 'fly only' rules. If that's the case, perhaps he shouldn't have used the word 'fly' when naming his creation. Carrot or stick, chicken or egg - which comes first or is more important?? There has been much on the interweb over the past couple of years with similar 'tangential' views, such as the use of a spinner with a fly rod, and the use of flies with a spinning rod anyway, as well as how much leadcore is it possible or legal to cast off the end of a floating fly line, and even adding a mepps type spinner-blade to a fly. It may just be the cynic in me, but there does appear to be some clear water developing between fishermen and meat-seekers. It's just necessary to be aware that, in certain waters you may plan to fish, your idea of what method you are using may not align with that of the ghillie/owner or that of the riverboard rules & regulations. Such 'innovations' may thus be confined to such waters where there are few rigid rules. Although I haven't seen the article as mentioned above, I'm sure T&S editorial board would have thought more than once about publishing it if the inventor had named it something like the "Meat-Seeking Missile" Mike
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salmo
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Post by salmo on Jan 3, 2009 18:05:27 GMT
I take my two boys fishing during the summer and they can legitimately spin alongside me while I fly fish. I have to manage where they stand and make sure they do not cast across my line or get injured by the fly. It is not easy or as peaceful as leaving them at home but it does tick the 'being a good dad' box ;D In some pools spinning is banned due to the risk of foul hooking. The boys cannot handle a fly rod with ease so they use spinning gear and put tube flies on weighted monofil. The fly is cast across the flow and swings around like a 'conventional' fly but the weight helps the fly get deep. Like most aspects of spinning it does not take that much skill but they catch fish and enjoy every minute of it. In the right conditions this is a good method. However, no matter how well it works, it is simply nowhere near as enjoyable or as skillful as speycasting and controlling the fly movement with angle, mending, stripping etc etc. Fly fishing for salmon is a real art and in most cases I would not consider anything else but I am definitely open minded to all methods if conditions dictate. What I do not understand though is why anyone needs a spoon attached to a fly or has to add spoon tags to flies and then deploys them on a fly rod which is definitely more difficult to cast when they could simply add some feathers or hair to their spinners. Not only that flies alone can catch fish if they are present??? Equally puzzling is why people who are willing to spin with fly do not take the plunge and go to real fly fishing once they see the results. My boys are dying to get out and catch a salmon on a 2 hander now that they have seen the fly take more fish than a spinner:D salmo
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tweedsider
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Post by tweedsider on Jan 3, 2010 11:00:40 GMT
I am sure there was an article in Trout and Salmon within the past two years featuring a Tyne angler who fished tube flies with a spinning rod. My recollection is he seemed to do rather well!
Tweedsider
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