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Post by walter mepps on Dec 3, 2007 23:39:07 GMT
Do any scottish forum fishers think you should be able to fish on sundays, but finish one month earlier to let fish spawn in peace but without buying rod licence? ;D
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Post by buntinbee on Dec 4, 2007 1:31:20 GMT
No, I am perfectly happy with the present arrangement.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2007 4:00:28 GMT
No.
I would rather Sundays were reserved for Canoodling. Fishers can canoodle at home or pray for canoodlists and canoodlists can canoodle the river at the expense of Saturdays, when Canoodlists can browse round canoodle shops and fishers can canoodle on down to the river in peace.
Peace in our time without buying a licence.
Seriously I think Sunday fishing will come but not in my lifetime. It will however instantly halve the Saturday fishing pressure on Association waters, if managed correctly and I feel therefore Associations would do well to lobby for this change. In the meantime my point above remains.
Surely the european court of .... should have something to say about sunday fishing ??
M
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Post by sinkingtip on Dec 4, 2007 8:30:33 GMT
Having been brought up in a 'wee free' household I would have to vote a resounding NO !. As Tweedcast rightly states, Sundays are for "canoodling" ( a show of affection practiced by the over 50's - a forerunner to 'full rumpy'). Perhaps a bit of hoovering and / or catching up with unwatched episodes of Songs Of Praise. If nothing else it delineates one fishing week from the next. Regarding the change of dates - for 'my' river (Tay) ..... START 6 weeks later (1st March) and extend the season by a humble fortnight to the end of October - its not too late compared to some ... is it ? regards STip
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Post by tweedsider on Dec 4, 2007 8:46:04 GMT
Allow Sunday fishing and you loose that magic Monday morning feeling of, ' have fish run in during the close day' Not forgetting the fortune lawyers are going to make if Sunday fishing is permitted Tweedsider
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Post by hornet on Dec 4, 2007 9:20:45 GMT
I would also have to say no on this one.
Cheers
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Post by blairyboy on Dec 4, 2007 9:50:39 GMT
I am quite happy to give the beasts a day of sanctuary. Perhaps I am prejudiced as I am fortunately able to fish the other six days if I wish. Regards to all.
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Post by knoxy on Dec 4, 2007 13:24:49 GMT
Would like it to change! But then Divorce would be on the cards so would end my ability to afford fishing anyway!
No keep it as it is !
Would like it better if local tackle shops opened on the sunday instead though!!!
Iain
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Post by speyghillie on Dec 4, 2007 17:56:53 GMT
Having awoken a hornets nest of 'Anoraks' with a letter to the Trout & Salmon on this very issue a couple of years ago, I don't want to labour the point too much, but I am a most definite NO to Sunday Fishing.
Firstly, the religious stance, always contentious - I believe Scotland is still constitutionally at least a Christian country, and 'Reel' Sportsmen and their organisations, (Salmon/Sea Trout Fishing and most Shooting) still seem to respect Sunday as a day of rest, for themselves and their prey. I doubt whether that counts for much in this Multi-Cultural society, where the minority seem to rule, but at least for now thankfully the status quo remains.
However my Christian belief aside, as a Ghillie, I think currently working 6-days a week is more than enough and I most certainly look forward to a Sunday at home with my family. Additionally Tweedsider was spot on - The anticipation of first time down the pool on Monday morning would be totally deflated if we were to fish the day before. Another valid point would be, when would the guests change-over, as the majority of fishers, certainly on the prime rivers are visitors who arrive and depart on consecutive Sundays.
Yes I fully understand that everyone works hard these days and most would appreciate the opportunity to fish on their day off, but let us consider the most important issue, the state of our Salmon stocks - Currently I think if anything, we need to restrict fishing pressure, not increase it.
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Post by tweedsider on Dec 4, 2007 18:18:18 GMT
Speygillie well said, the fish, the workers and the rivers need a rest day.
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Post by Speyducer on Dec 4, 2007 18:30:00 GMT
100% agree - a day of rest for the fish, ghillies, and others bankside.
After all, everyone does need to recharge their batteries!
Mike
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Post by John Gray on Dec 4, 2007 18:44:39 GMT
I take a very different view. Indeed, the ban on Sunday fishing has always seemed a very fishy business to me! The official reason for the ban seems to have been to give the salmon, salmon fishermen and gillies a day of rest. This, of course, was very convenient for the owners of the fishing, as they could fish for salmon on any day of the week. Not so convenient for the ordinary working man, who only had one day off in the week, coincidentally (or perhaps not so coincidentally) a Sunday, on which to fish. I see the Sunday ban as little more than a device, thought up by the landowners, and supported by their mates in the Church and the Legislature, to exclude the hoi polloi from the salmon rivers, dressed up as observance of the Sabbath. It is worth noting that, somewhat inconsistently, it was not made illegal to fish on the Sabbath for trout, which are of little interest to the landowners and can safely be left to the common man.
The question is not so important today, of course, with a five day week as standard and more flexible working hours. Also, with the salmon runs in many rivers declining, there is perhaps a sound argument in favour of a day off, although it need not be a Sunday. It could be any day of the week. The Sunday closure should not, in any case, be justified on the grounds of religious observance. I would think it sensible to bring our archaic laws on salmon fishing into line with those of a more enlightened England and Wales in this respect. Fishery boards, or fishery managers, might then be free to determine fishing times according to their own circumstances.
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Post by acw on Dec 4, 2007 19:49:11 GMT
100% agree - a day of rest for the fish, ghillies, and others bankside. After all, everyone does need to recharge their batteries! Mike What utter tosh ,try bringing that archaic rule in England Eire and Wales and you would have me going apeshugar!
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Post by walter mepps on Dec 4, 2007 19:59:39 GMT
well said john for the ghillies out there all you need to do is have another ghillie on a sunday you can still have a day off to get yer leg over ;D ;D ;D happy days the fish still get a rest @ night
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Post by speyghillie on Dec 4, 2007 20:03:45 GMT
[/quote] What utter tosh ,try bringing that archaic rule in England Eire and Wales and you would have me going apeshugar![/quote]
Andy,
Perhaps if they did, there might be a few more fish in your rivers ;D
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Post by Willie Gunn on Dec 4, 2007 20:05:33 GMT
well said john for the ghillies out there all you need to do is have another ghillie on a sunday you can still have a day off to get yer leg over ;D ;D ;D happy days the fish still get a rest @ night How many trained gillies are queueing up to work one day a week? The Spey would need at least 30; I realise the government is keen on care in the community but I still cannot believe there are the numbers out there.
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Post by Tyne Angler on Dec 4, 2007 20:06:25 GMT
100% agree - a day of rest for the fish, ghillies, and others bankside. After all, everyone does need to recharge their batteries! Mike Plus when else would Willie Gunn cut his grass?
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Post by G Ritchie on Dec 4, 2007 20:11:05 GMT
You need one day to recover from working all week and flogging the river all day on Saturday.
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Post by acw on Dec 4, 2007 20:12:09 GMT
What utter tosh ,try bringing that archaic rule in England Eire and Wales and you would have me going apeshugar![/quote] Andy, Perhaps if they did, there might be a few more fish in your rivers ;D[/quote] Possibly I am doing the devils advocate here ,I do like knowing that midnite saturday is the end of fishing in Scotland ,time for a wee dram and a sensible run back to London ,but that s proper fishing ,at the moment I work 6 days sunday is my day off ,I like salmon fishing on the Wye and Severn asa its a 3 hour drive not a 6 hour drive ! On many of the UKs rivers I think more "real" anglers on the bank seven days a week might help discourage the theiving poachers !
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Post by walter mepps on Dec 4, 2007 20:20:04 GMT
whatever happened to hardcore fisherman ? excellent point about the poachers when we are oot the water their straight in man ???the fish get no rest!!
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