hf
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Post by hf on Mar 2, 2011 15:53:45 GMT
Any suggestions as how to go about fishing narrow pools maybe around 8-10ft or so wide? To make matters more difficult we can also add in a touch of backwater.
Big flies - small flies? Long line - short line? etc etc
hf
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Post by sinkingtip on Mar 2, 2011 16:33:18 GMT
Upstream Mepps.
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Post by allysshrimp on Mar 2, 2011 17:16:22 GMT
A good bunch of worms should do the trick Eric ;D
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Post by fredo on Mar 2, 2011 18:00:40 GMT
I fish a lot of narrow pools in my local grilse ditch. I cast a long line downstream and use the rod to move the fly over known salmon lies.
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Post by conwyrod on Mar 2, 2011 18:04:34 GMT
In Wales, the slate quarrymen used to use dynamite. ;D
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Post by tweedbunnet on Mar 2, 2011 18:41:18 GMT
Sounds like a place to try to "Dibble" the Fly with a a 2 Fly Cast and the Dropper swirling about around the surface if the stance is suitable.
tb
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Post by G Ritchie on Mar 2, 2011 19:57:36 GMT
The dibble is a good suggestion and another trick worth trying is a Frances tied on a heavy copper or tungsten tube cast across and slightly upstream and allowed to dead drift around until it rises on the dangle.
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Post by hf on Mar 2, 2011 20:12:18 GMT
Thanks for all the replies so far - mepps dynamite and worms have already been tried. Not by me I hasten to add.
Fredo, will give it a try this season and see how it goes. What size of fly would you use?
tweedbunnet, fascinating way of fishing. To get a salmon with this method would be pretty exciting. I take it that you just target the expected lies as with the above method. Could I also ask you what flies you would expect to work.
Cheers and any more suggestions welcomed.
hf
Added on: Graham, thanks for that one.
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Post by fredo on Mar 3, 2011 6:55:26 GMT
How deep is the water in the narrow pools? Is the water fast flowing?
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Post by hf on Mar 3, 2011 7:28:14 GMT
How deep is the water in the narrow pools? Is the water fast flowing? fredo... this pool is tidal but will hold fish for a time. The depth is around 3 - 4ft and the flow will take a fly round very slowly. hf
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Post by eskimoo on Mar 3, 2011 16:57:14 GMT
If you have a good ripple on the water I would try a hitch fly,
Tight lines.
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Post by hf on Mar 3, 2011 17:17:29 GMT
If you have a good ripple on the water I would try a hitch fly, Tight lines. Thanks eskimoo.
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Post by dunkeld on Mar 3, 2011 21:15:58 GMT
With regards to dibbling, I would was talking to a fishing companion last August who dibbles a lot on the Gruinard and he showed me a few of his "dibbling flies" and they are like collie dogs with a extra long wing of at approx 6" long. Apparently he does very well on this type of fly, so worth knocking a few of these up just in case.
Good luck.
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Post by hf on Mar 3, 2011 21:28:53 GMT
dunkeld... I've got one or two fly's along that line but would never have thought of using them like that. Will keep it in mind and give it a try with all the other suggestions. (don't know what the locals will be thinking though)
hf
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Post by builnacraig on Mar 3, 2011 23:26:22 GMT
(don't know what the locals will be thinking though) hf Wear a hard hat they may drop stones on your head! BnC
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Post by ghilliejohn on Mar 5, 2011 16:48:15 GMT
Hi Guys. Most of the rivers I fish up here in the highlands are just what you describe ...Fly definately 'dibble' - Choice of fly one with plenty of movement interesting to note collie dog type flies but why not ! great movement even in a slower flow....bearing in mind that they say salmon have poor eyesight and can only see 10 feet clearly to their front..it is silhouettes of passing flies overhead in this instance that will catch their attention..so must have that all important movement to entice interest ...I remember when Falkus published his book on salmon fishing.. in there he describes fishing with a yellow and black deer hair tube fly [smaller sizes] named 'yellow Sally' designed specifically for 'dibbling' . Didn't work for me but hey works for others ! this fly is designed primarily as a wake fly ..the resulting wake on the surface as the fly skates round is the attraction...Wake flies do work.. colour is not important it is the disturbance /movement breaking the surface that attracts. The geography of the pools you describe seem ideal for this method ..don't be afraid to to use a short line with the rod held high to cover known lyes. They want it they'll come for it !... As with all disciplines of successful angling presentation is the answer. Just my preference but I find it more successful fishing with one 'dibbling' fly there is no need for a cast of two or three flies in pools this size no need for any other flies to act as an attractant.This method works particularky well on fresh or fresh run fish . Read more about tidal pool fishing at... www.aghilliestale.comKindest regards JOHN
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Post by ghilliejohn on Mar 5, 2011 17:16:02 GMT
On the other hand you say you have tried the worm ..upstream ? this method is deadly for all trout and catches a lot of salmon too for those that still practice the art..Simplicity but so so effective ! it's simply a case of hooking a worm once through its tail..can I say worm on this forum ? ..no weight at all unless the current is strong enough to pull the bait to the surface..only use a split shot heavy enough to sink the worm.Let the current drift the worm back downstream towards you.Gently reel the slack in -keep in contact with the bait at all times.Feel a rock/potential snag ? simply lift the rod tip and let the worm roll over the snag. Bite ? strike instantly .. bait stops trundling downstream ? don't feel a snag ! hit it !..takes a wee while to get used to it but once you mastered the art of upstream worming you won't fish the worm any other way ! either for trout or salmon. As for all important presentation ..just how natural how can you get other than fishing this method ? JOHN
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Post by ghilliejohn on Mar 5, 2011 17:17:53 GMT
do apologise for the novel n in reply ! ;D Tight Lines JOHN
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Post by hf on Mar 5, 2011 19:27:10 GMT
On the other hand you say you have tried the worm ..upstream ? this method is deadly for all trout and catches a lot of salmon too for those that still practice the art..Simplicity but so so effective ! it's simply a case of hooking a worm once through its tail..can I say worm on this forum ? ..no weight at all unless the current is strong enough to pull the bait to the surface..only use a split shot heavy enough to sink the worm.Let the current drift the worm back downstream towards you.Gently reel the slack in -keep in contact with the bait at all times.Feel a rock/potential snag ? simply lift the rod tip and let the worm roll over the snag. Bite ? strike instantly .. bait stops trundling downstream ? don't feel a snag ! hit it !..takes a wee while to get used to it but once you mastered the art of upstream worming you won't fish the worm any other way ! either for trout or salmon. As for all important presentation ..just how natural how can you get other than fishing this method ? JOHN Apologies John, I should have made it clearer that the river is fly only. These other methods were used before that was the case. Thanks though for the description of how to go about worming. Thanks too for the other input regarding dibbling. hf
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