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Post by hf on Nov 1, 2007 15:08:42 GMT
While I don't agree that someone should be forced to post, even if only once per year, in my mind it brings up the question of why wouldn't someone wish to join the forum or post. I became a member of the salmosalar.proboards80 around Nov/Dec 06 (I think). Before that I used to look in from time to time and read up a little about salmon fishing. I enjoyed the crack. The reason for becoming a member was so I could access all parts of the forum - especially the fly tying as I seem to remember. Why did I not post in all that time. Probably for a number of reasons. - The salmon fishing world seemed claustrophobic. - An awareness that there were many differing viewpoints. - Not knowledgeable enough or willing to put my head on the block. - I already had a mentor who I could ask. - These forums (e mail forums etc) usually end up with people debating, disagreeing and eventually going there separate ways. (and I don't just mean fishing forums) - Wanting to keep my fishing enjoyable. Why am I now posting on this forum then?- I got a great deal of enjoyment from the old 80 forum, when it was going well, and would hate to see that being lost. As for those who don't post on this forum, (as yet), they will still benefit a great deal from the on line discussions etc and that, I think, can only be good for the fishing fraternity. - to make the forum work it needs new characters with their own stories etc - this for me is an open forum which is healthy, and this post will be here tomorrow. - I am still not that knowledgeable about all things salmon, but, what the heck! An aside Recently, when there was a highly charged exchange of communications there were a lot of people online. Is it that people like a highly charged atmosphere? To take that line onto a constructive level, do people wish to see on-line debates... I suspect it is a part of us that just wants to see a soap opera! I'm Happy
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Post by salmonking on Nov 1, 2007 17:59:17 GMT
John Gray misses my point to maximum effect,,,if you want to look in this forum without posting,,you are free to do so,, "YOU DO NOT NEED TO REGISTER",,with a user name,,what's the point of having a user name if you do not intend to post??,,,quite simple really,,,i see we have another new member,,doubt if we will see a post though,,going by his previous post's and actions he will have seen this thread,,and registered just to annoy people,,,,his actions may bite his arse one day,,,you just never know.
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Post by John Gray on Nov 1, 2007 18:40:01 GMT
John Gray misses my point to maximum effect,,,if you want to look in this forum without posting,,you are free to do so,, "YOU DO NOT NEED TO REGISTER",,with a user name,,what's the point of having a user name if you do not intend to post??,,,quite simple really,,,i see we have another new member,,doubt if we will see a post though,,going by his previous post's and actions he will have seen this thread,,and registered just to annoy people,,,,his actions may bite his arse one day,,,you just never know. I don't think I misinterpreted your meaning. You made it quite clear that you would expel all registered members who had joined the forum but had yet to make a post. I would be interested to know what benefit you see in such a policy.
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Post by salmonking on Nov 1, 2007 19:02:58 GMT
Just don't see the registering point John,,if not intending to post that person wishes to remain invisible,,grant them their wish.
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Post by John Gray on Nov 1, 2007 19:27:25 GMT
Just don't see the registering point John,,if not intending to post that person wishes to remain invisible,,grant them their wish. I must say that I can't see any harm at all in members who don't post but simply read the forum. Although I don't see a problem in having such members, I am very much in favour of opening up the whole forum to public view. As it is, a proportion of members may have registered simply to view the members only "Step-by-Step Fly Tying" section, with no intention of participating in forum discussions. Making that section accessible to all - and I still cannot see any logic in hiding it - will make such registrations unnecessary and will ensure that members join the forum in order to participate, rather than simply to gain information. This would undoubtedly result in a more committed membership.
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Post by salmonking on Nov 1, 2007 19:29:24 GMT
MMMM,,Fair point.
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Post by salmo on Nov 3, 2007 10:20:08 GMT
No not a biblical thing just salmon forums, Springer world is re-uniting. Now where was the post where it was said it would never happen. WG, It is good that they recognise that having the ASFF had no function when the same admin got hold of SFF. The ASFF was heralded as a fresh start to get away from bickering but it soon became clear that it was developed with a desire for commercial gain. This is clear from all the talk of ads. Nothing wrong with that in this world but no point in denying it. The problem was after a few weeks ASFF was not growing as planned and SFF was functioning fine without certain people. SFF looked like a bigger asset for the advertising revenue so I believe the ASFF admin went after that as well again for commercial gain. The fears of Proboards shutting them down are completely exaggerated. Proboards has 2 million boards and maybe a 1000 boards on fishing. Their business model is to reach out to users with free board hosting and in return they direct Google Ads at peoples banners. salmo.proboards74.com/index.cgi?board=openadmin&action=display&thread=1194040092&page=1Why on earth would Proboards shut down a board which gives them income from Google? Other than gross breach of rules (which is unlikely) it simply does not ring true. salmo
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Post by fruity on Nov 3, 2007 10:47:22 GMT
Proboards may have a lot of fishing boards but from my searches I'd be prepared to wager that most hardly get off the ground, have been unused for months or longer, or were frozen so that they're owners could set up their own site elsewhere. I've made various searches for other forum sites across North America/Europe and haven't come across anything of this quality.
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hf
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Post by hf on Nov 3, 2007 11:20:41 GMT
Salmo... thanks for the work that you and others put into this forum. You mention financial gain in your previous post. On a forum such as the old SSF (of which I was an invisible member) is the financial gain, a) for the owner of the board b) proboards c) both of them. Next question... If a board - eg such as SFF - is now 'read only' will it still be a source of financial gain for either (a), (b), or (c) above? Just curious My apologies that I am too lazy to read up on all this but am hoping that you may have the quick answer. Thanks again
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Post by salmo on Nov 3, 2007 11:42:57 GMT
Salmo... thanks for the work that you and others put into this forum. You mention financial gain in your previous post. On a forum such as the old SSF (of which I was an invisible member) is the financial gain, a) for the owner of the board b) proboards c) both of them. Next question... If a board - eg such as SFF - is now 'read only' will it still be a source of financial gain for either (a), (b), or (c) above? Just curious My apologies that I am too lazy to read up on all this but am hoping that you may have the quick answer. Thanks again This board is free to us. Proboards get revenue from Google for ads. If we want to advertise we have to pay proboards to remove the Google ads. We get money from advertisers and so would proboards. salmo
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Post by Speyducer on Nov 3, 2007 11:58:24 GMT
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Post by Speyducer on Nov 3, 2007 12:02:17 GMT
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Post by tweedside on Nov 3, 2007 15:05:49 GMT
While I don't agree that someone should be forced to post, even if only once per year, in my mind it brings up the question of why wouldn't someone wish to join the forum or post. Some of us who cannet spel are fraid o beink blettlid buy dose wat kan spel! Also many people , such as WG , are very shy and, to a degree, introverted. Such people like to know what is going on and learn by the experience of reading the views of those who are generous with their experience and opinions.
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