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Post by kerrychalmers on May 9, 2013 22:15:37 GMT
Can it be true? Have Gregg and Andy really split? Seems acrimonious with Andy claiming Youtube figures were manipulated for commercial gain. Is there more to this story? Really enjoyed the films they made, hopefully one or both will come forward with an explanation. Will there be legal repercussions? Andy aka Hunterswind on the "really brilliant forum" has made a damning statement saying the manipulation was deliberate and intended to dupe,advertisers. Gregg has so far made no reply which is strange in itself as he normally is quick to answer his critics! I await the next thrilling episode of Hooked v Salmo............ You could,nt make it up!
Kerry Chalmers, reporting from a pub near you.
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Post by kerrychalmers on May 9, 2013 22:41:07 GMT
Wow!!! Hunterswind is now claiming on the "other forum" that he was "completely duped by Gregg and now looks forward to working with someone who can really cast a line" Compagnito must surely be in the frame!!! ?i am going deep undercover to try and bring news of developments as they happen. This story could actually overshadow the" Fergie" story and may make the front page of the Dundee Courier tomorrow. What will it do for the reputations of these prestigious beats frequented by the daring duo? Tricia Takanawa, aka Kerry Chalmers. In the last few minutes Andy has in fact called Gregg a " fat fheck" and again reiterated that Gregg cant cast a line while at the same time let us know of his own honesty. Gregg seemingly called him " the cameraman" which Andy took offence to....lol Unbeflippinlievable..........better than the "springergate"claiming incident both were party to. As I say " you could,nt make it up...lol
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Post by Willie Gunn on May 9, 2013 23:04:19 GMT
He ought to be looking for someone whose waders fit properly.
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Post by kerrychalmers on May 9, 2013 23:07:55 GMT
He ought to be looking for someone whose waders fit properly. Now! Now...Willie. Lol
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Post by kerrychalmers on May 9, 2013 23:31:01 GMT
Now allegations of e-mail stealing are being levelled at Andy "honest boy" Richardson to which he has so far made no reply. Who would have believed it in the Gentlemanly sport of Salmon fishing.........? Im laying odds on the Range Rrover being a "ringer"....lol and the camera being stolen from ITV......lol
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Post by stoney on May 9, 2013 23:36:05 GMT
If he/they want to promote Scotland as a fishing destination then they should have choose a Scottish name for their venture. Hooked UK f... off!!! Is it a stockie lol that really got me. Since when did Rainbow Trout become native to the Loch of Menteith? Good riddance to Hooked UK.
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Post by Speyducer on May 10, 2013 2:13:46 GMT
If the program was to show (and promote) salmon & other fishing to include fishing outside the UK (I heard that there were plans to have shows from Russia, etc), and clearly as 'Hooked' was felt to be important in the brand titling, then Hooked UK perhaps wasn't the best choice, and Hooked on Scotland had already been bagged! With one simple letter change they could have chosen 'Hooked Up', but then again, that might sound a bit like a Match.com spin-off - which it clearly now ISN'T a match any more, indeed more like 'Hooked - Up Yours!' Mike
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Post by dunkeld on May 10, 2013 6:33:05 GMT
Hooked UK was a bold attempt at producing a new angling series, that unfortunately failed on a few counts. The sound was woeful at times, the script was lacking in quality and as I have stated to Grieg and his team, the swearing and that women on the Lake of Menteith program was just embarrassing to say the least.
The Title Hooked UK was ok as they were to film a few rivers down South, so that might have worked if the contents as above had been of good quality.
Im sure if they had intended just to concentrate on Scottish rivers etc, they could have come up with a few other names.
How about coming up with a few for any other budding film producer to use?
What about, simply - Fishing in Scotland, or Scottish Rivers and Lochs etc
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Post by stoney on May 10, 2013 11:58:56 GMT
The Title Hooked UK was ok as they were to film a few rivers down South Sorry but no. He clearly stated to me on several forums it was to promote Scotland as a fishing destination. Would you promote France as a fishing destination and call it Fishing Europe because you made a few trips to Spain? I am all for some-one promoting our fishing but only if its done from a purely Scottish perspective and for our good. Im sure if they had intended just to concentrate on Scottish rivers etc, they could have come up with a few other names. How about coming up with a few for any other budding film producer to use? What about, simply - Fishing in Scotland, or Scottish Rivers and Lochs etc Making up a suitable name could have been as easy as counting to three. Going by the laughable thread on that other forum i think its clear both Grieg and no doubt Stan Headley had the £ at the forefront of their thinking rather than as they claimed - promoting Scotland as a fishing destination.
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Post by dunkeld on May 10, 2013 12:11:28 GMT
The Title Hooked UK was ok as they were to film a few rivers down South Sorry but no. He clearly stated to me on several forums it was to promote Scotland as a fishing destination. Would you promote France as a fishing destination and call it Fishing Europe because you made a few trips to Spain? I am all for some-one promoting our fishing but only if its done from a purely Scottish perspective and for our good. Im sure if they had intended just to concentrate on Scottish rivers etc, they could have come up with a few other names. How about coming up with a few for any other budding film producer to use? What about, simply - Fishing in Scotland, or Scottish Rivers and Lochs etc Making up a suitable name could have been as easy as counting to three. Going by the laughable thread on that other forum i think its clear both Grieg and no doubt Stan Headley had the £ at the forefront of their thinking rather than as they claimed - promoting Scotland as a fishing destination. I'm only going by his response to your question when you asked him why did he call the program Hooked UK when he said this to you: We will be visiting England, Ireland & Wales some of the timeRead more: salmo.proboards.com/thread/7675/new-episode-hooked-south-esk##ixzz2StIa3khD
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Post by stoney on May 10, 2013 12:16:32 GMT
Sorry but no. He clearly stated to me on several forums it was to promote Scotland as a fishing destination. Would you promote France as a fishing destination and call it Fishing Europe because you made a few trips to Spain? I am all for some-one promoting our fishing but only if its done from a purely Scottish perspective and for our good. Making up a suitable name could have been as easy as counting to three. Going by the laughable thread on that other forum i think its clear both Grieg and no doubt Stan Headley had the £ at the forefront of their thinking rather than as they claimed - promoting Scotland as a fishing destination. I'm only going by his response to your question when you asked him why did he call the program Hooked UK when he said this to you: Ireland...and i was going by exactly what he told me and many others on other forums. Ireland? Again - Would you promote France as a fishing destination and call it Fishing Europe because you made a few trips to Spain?
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Post by dunkeld on May 10, 2013 12:22:59 GMT
Some nice rivers no doubt in Northern Ireland. When you add England, wales into the mix he can call it UK fishing
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Post by stoney on May 10, 2013 12:29:35 GMT
Some nice rivers no doubt in Northern Ireland. When you add England, wales into the mix he can call it UK fishing Promoting UK fishing then not Scotland as was said
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Post by SalmoF on May 10, 2013 18:10:22 GMT
Gents, I have just been notified of this thread and as such please find my response to Andy's abuse below. Please note this should have never been in the public domain and just between myself and Andy. Andy has chosen to place the dirty washing in the public fora and as such i have been forced to put up a comprehensive defence on Facebook which was as follows:-"I think that this situation is incredibly unfortunate and in no way should not be in the public fora. There are a few matters that need to be clarified here. (1) You 'Andy' are now is the possession of a stolen camera and equipment and as you are now aware the police are involved as they have been in contact with you twice, this is only as a result of you ignoring repeated requests for the return of the goods through amicable means. If this camera has been damaged, which you have threatened to do on no less than 2 occasions then they will take the appropriate actions.
(2) You state that we pay for fake views. Like most of my operations, in order to boost my coverage and campaigns, I create social media targeted campaigns via Facebook and Virool which we pay for much in the same way as many standard marketing campaigns, this is a key part to building any organsisation in todays world.
(3) I gave you use of the equipment in good faith, you were dishonest with me as I have found out about this from 3rd parties. This is not me been controlling, but rather me protecting my interests.
(4) You make threats behind closed doors i.e. on forums, Facebook text and SMS as well as abbusive posts. These have been passed on to me by 3rd parties and as such will be passed on to the police. This has made my family uneasy and just can not be tolerated on any level.
(4) I have never in anyway bad mouthed you over this sorry situation, I have only asked for my equipment back by amicable means to which you have refused. I returned by special delivery, a new hard drive that contained every bit of footage that you filmed for your own use.
(5) You state that the films are your intellectual property. The fact of the matter is that, other than the Tilt, Loch Leven & Kinnaber shows, they were filmed on my equipment, on days that I had arranged and paid form via my company, many of them being regular annual lets. You filmed and I edited along with me allowing you to use the camera to film for you own FromField2Stream shows free gratis for months.
(6) At no point at any stage of our joint filming did you for pay for organise the day. Throughout this project I have spent considerable time, effort and hard earned cash on making this project work. I will not tolerate your actions & threats nor have you associated with my brand. As such we are in this unfortunate situation. I can only apologies to any members for this situation being brought into the public domain by Andy. He should never have done this. Greig Thomson"______________________________________ The abusive posts on the thread on the other forum has now been removed. As you will see, Hooked UK and the Fly Fishing Channel are very much in full swing and will return for the summer season next month. Our website is live at www.flyfishingchannel.tv where you will see the team of co presenters/crew. As far as the whinges are concerned out there and you know who you are, Hooked UK is the chosen name based on the following:- 1. Hooked Scotland would be too close to the bone 2. Hooked UK takes into account that the program is mostly filmed in the UK albeit Scotland, given that is where i ultimately want to promote given my business interests. I have been open and honest about this from the outset. in addition, people ask me why I don't charge for subscribers like some other services. My answer to them is why would i want to charge the fishing community to watch a show? I am an open, honest and fair person and would just not agree with this. 3. Hooked up sounds ok and is worth consideration. That would indeed fit in with the overseas shows. 4. Hooked alone could not be used at this was the name of the STV show 5. I Like it, as do many others Re the confusing structure, The Fly Fishing Channel and the Hooked UK shows are owned wholly by my company. The shows retrospectively were also featured on Andy's Fieldsports channel FromField2Stream TV. This channel features Hunting, Shooting along with countryside affairs. We were to help with the editing side of things for Andy whilst he shot the film for us and used our equipment. A mutually beneficial agreement that has went very sour but could have worked. We get a lot of good press on these shows as well as the odd bit of criticism, which of course we like and appreciate. What we do not appreciate is un-constructive pregnant doging, of which, there is unfortunately a fair bit. If anyone wishes to have chat with me direct in relation to any of these issues, then please call me on my mobile 07528 624200. Other that that, for those of you that have supported the show, many thanks. I appreciate the overwhelming support for what we are doing! Please have alook at the website as well as our trailer below. Cheers, Greig [/i]
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Post by Willie Gunn on May 10, 2013 18:33:26 GMT
The thread on the other forum has now been removed. Cheers, Greig Still there at 19 30.
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Post by SalmoF on May 10, 2013 18:54:40 GMT
The thread on the other forum has now been removed. Cheers, Greig Still there at 19 30. Sorry, the abusive posts on the thread have been removed.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 20:05:40 GMT
Tell me,
How many forums are you clowns on ?
Is one not enough! Only joking my friends :-)
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Post by SalmoF on May 11, 2013 12:32:09 GMT
The Title Hooked UK was ok as they were to film a few rivers down South Sorry but no. He clearly stated to me on several forums it was to promote Scotland as a fishing destination. Would you promote France as a fishing destination and call it Fishing Europe because you made a few trips to Spain? I am all for some-one promoting our fishing but only if its done from a purely Scottish perspective and for our good. Im sure if they had intended just to concentrate on Scottish rivers etc, they could have come up with a few other names. How about coming up with a few for any other budding film producer to use? What about, simply - Fishing in Scotland, or Scottish Rivers and Lochs etc Making up a suitable name could have been as easy as counting to three. Going by the laughable thread on that other forum i think its clear both Grieg and no doubt Stan Headley had the £ at the forefront of their thinking rather than as they claimed - promoting Scotland as a fishing destination. Hi Stoney, '£'s are indeed at the forefront of my thinking, after all, I run a business that brings people in to this country to fish from around the world. This in turn helps hotels/accommodation providers, beats, ghillies, guides (and myself) and so on. The channel is there to help promote the destination and entertain, which in turn drums up bookings, which in turn pays the wages. Every location we have featured have reported an increase in bookings on the back of the shows, this can only be a good thing. You will find that most programs out there whether fishing related or not, are/were commercial ventures, that includes Hooked on Scotland, Matt Hayes and so on, we are no different other than the fact that the investment is my own and not a broadcasters, and it will stay that way. I appreciate that you do not like the 'Hooked UK' name. I am more than happy to hear any suggestions you have on the name which are commercially viable. You can ring me on 07528 624200 or drop me an email at greig.thomson@salmofishings.com. Failing that happy to meet up when I am in your neck of the woods fishing later in the year. Keep up the good work on your blog, enjoy reading any thing wild trout related. Best, Greig P.S. What was your name again?
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Post by SalmoF on May 11, 2013 12:44:51 GMT
Hooked UK was a bold attempt at producing a new angling series, that unfortunately failed on a few counts. The sound was woeful at times, the script was lacking in quality and as I have stated to Grieg and his team, the swearing and that women on the Lake of Menteith program was just embarrassing to say the least. The Title Hooked UK was ok as they were to film a few rivers down South, so that might have worked if the contents as above had been of good quality. Im sure if they had intended just to concentrate on Scottish rivers etc, they could have come up with a few other names. How about coming up with a few for any other budding film producer to use? What about, simply - Fishing in Scotland, or Scottish Rivers and Lochs etc Thanks for your comments Kenny, The few accounts that the show had failed on were ultimately due to teething issues with starting the whole project only last year. I know where the shows went wrong, I have monitored the comments/feedback and picked up on the errors, including the swearing on the Menteith show, that show was the most difficult one due to the conditions and having to the film the opening day cermionies. The shows are in a raw format, we don't like to use scripts as we want to show people how it actually was on the day, although, we do have a rough outline of what we will talk about. They will get better each time so hopefully you will bare with us. Best, Greig
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Post by dunkeld on May 11, 2013 14:32:54 GMT
Thanks for your candid feedback Greig. Constructive criticism is always welcome in all aspects of life and glad you take it as such. I love any fishing program's on the telly, even Robson Green I'm sad to say, in fact there isn't enough game fishing on the television these days and was looking forward to your offerings.
Good luck with future plans assuming you get your camera gear back and all that!
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