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Post by salmonking on Jan 5, 2008 0:11:41 GMT
Having not been with an instructor before,,,never felt the need i recently have thought about brushing up,,and just for curiosity to see if they are worth their salt,,,1/what 's the going rate? 2/ Is it a better option to share with a mate? 3/ Any recommendations? 4/ How long did your lesson last?
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Post by Speyducer on Jan 5, 2008 8:10:59 GMT
For some recent tuition, I took my wife (never done any fly casting before) up to the Eden in June '07 to Glyn Freemen: www.cumbriaflyfishing.co.uk/courses.htmHalf day tuition, including the fishing, for both out us was ~£90 Glyn concentrated on teaching Shirley the basics of the roll cast and the single Spey, and I can say that with that short tuition she was able to make sufficiently good casts to hook up with several fish and land one (a grilse) in a July trip to Russia. I allowed Glyn to concetrate on Shirley's tuition for that half day, with Glyn literally only observing my own casting, we did find it both very useful, and I can recommend him for your consideration. I would definitely go for a 'share with a friend' day or half day. Have a look at his website, gives you more details. Having had only 2 other days tuition ever - with Connie Corcoran on the Blackwater in S. Ireland some years ago, I would say that brushing up on casting is worthwhile. Mike
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Post by Willie Gunn on Jan 5, 2008 10:16:39 GMT
Overall view or how can you choose an instructor? How important do you think a webpage is? Would you use an instructor who had basic spelling errors or simple grammatical mistakes? If your prospective instructor admitted on the world wide web that his web page he used to promote his business was free when hosting costs are in the region of £1/ week would that bother you?
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Post by salmo on Jan 5, 2008 10:34:21 GMT
A web site does not make a good or a bad caster. It is better to go with someone recommended by another than choose blindly.
In the absence of a personal recommendation I would recommend that you ask at a local tackle shop and see who they recommend in your area.
salmo
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Post by robbie on Jan 5, 2008 10:38:41 GMT
Frankly I do not care whether an Instructor can spell or can write correctly. A pleasant manner and the ability to give me a good day with good instruction is far more important. Your question about the £1 per week cost for a web site while claiming that it is in fact free is simply making mischief - I have probably spent a quid in electricity responding to this. Using the world wide web to promote your business is far more acceptable than using it to score petty points or to wage a personal campaighn. WG - as a previous Moderator you no doubt have the knowledge to create your own Forum. Why not do so and continue your sniping on that rather than dragging others into your little world - Frankly I am sick of it
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Post by shedhed on Jan 5, 2008 11:38:04 GMT
I asked the same question recently, and I am following up advice here and trying to book something now for early season. Prices I've had include £200 (8hrs) regardless of how many attend (I'm sure there must be an upper limit but I'm just inquiring for me and maybe a friend) or half day £100(4hrs) I've just asked for a quote for 6hrs salmo.proboards74.com/index.cgi?board=newcomers&action=display&thread=1194357820
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Post by lamson on Jan 5, 2008 12:23:00 GMT
Two of you for 4 hours at £100 is sensible, a good rate if the instructor is appropriately qualified . Enables you and the other student to alternate between instruction and practice. Unless a lot of travel is involved this is probably the best length of lesson eg best to do this x3 rather than 6 hours x2.
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Post by salmonking on Jan 5, 2008 15:39:55 GMT
Thanks for the replies folks,,,im hoping to have a day with Fenton on the tweed with a local instructor,,i will add the feedback on this in due time,,,,,i must admit im kinda looking forward to it.
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Post by robbie on Jan 5, 2008 16:10:38 GMT
Col I hope you do enjoy it. A couple or 3 times a year I take a day with either Glyn Freeman or Clive Mitchelhill. They have good access to some nice beats on the Eden. In the morning we tend to concentrate on casting techniques and then finish the day actually fishing and putting things into practice (with them observing and putting right when needed), On one occasion I asked Clive to bring all his reels and lines, as did I, and we tried them all out on my rods to determine what combination worked best. As a result of these days I can both, single and double off both shoulders and also Snake roll and a couple of other circus casts. ( albeit in my own clumsy way ). Well worth the money in my opinion. i.e. Full day, 1on1 , including instruction and fishing on private beat £160. Two pupils could attend and split that fee if required. ATB Robbie
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Post by robmason on Jan 5, 2008 18:37:40 GMT
Hey Col, I think this guy travels:
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Post by salmonking on Jan 5, 2008 19:20:29 GMT
Hey Col, I think this guy travels: Heh,heh,,,,,"ehrm,cough",,,Rob i think we have someone in mind,,thank's all the same. Link deleted by agreement between forums
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Post by neptune on Jan 5, 2008 22:14:38 GMT
of course col needs tuition he only caught 50ish last season ;D
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Post by speyghillie on Jan 7, 2008 11:56:28 GMT
Salmonking, You may be interested in the link I've added below. Check out Lot 11, an afternoon of fly casting instruction for 2 by Ian Gordon. Ian was Ghillie at Knockando on the Spey for 20 years, is a great bloke and fantastic instructor. He is now working as a consultant for Hardy/Greys and instructing/guiding; I could not recommended a better man. I believe that you can bid by e-mail for the lots. www.riverspeyanglers.org.uk/1.aspx
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Post by greenman on Nov 12, 2008 8:48:32 GMT
Did you ever go for a casting lesson Col? Who did you use and what was it like? I am new to using double handed rods and had a casting lesson before I had bought a rod or had ever used a DH'er. First casting lesson was with Kevin Paterson at Tweedswood. Something great happened, everything he said I seemed to understand and my very first attempt at a double spey (right bank) shot right out and the yarn touched the other bank - I could hardly believe it. If you are fishing at Tweedswood, give him a call to discuss brushing up on your casting while you are there. He is well qualified, part APGAI? He doesn't explicitly charge for this type of instruction if you are fishing so tip him well I had to get used to sunk line work and had a couple of lessons with Eoin Fairgrieve. Eoin charges around 35/40 quid per hour and you need to book well in advance. Eoin is fantastic. As well as sunk line work, I wanted pointers for coming off the left shoulder. He had me casting pretty good off my left shoulder within ten mins ... I will point out that as soon as I got to a fishing sitution I was back off the right shoulder and quickly forgot the left shoulder instruction .... doh As it is, within a season I can put out a good line off my right shoulder, inc. dealing with strong wind (which don't force you onto left shoulder for safety reasons). Off the left shoulder ..... That's for next season
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Post by salmonking on Nov 12, 2008 16:53:23 GMT
Chris, I know where your coming from...but i'd rather spend hard earned cash on actually fishing.. ,my casting ain't too bad,and i'll keep picking up things along the way...ps Kevin always gets a good tip from us. ;)as do all the ghillie's.
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Post by tweed ghillie on Nov 12, 2008 19:01:30 GMT
Just to put the cat among the pigeons, casting tuition is great if you have never encountered it before, ie if you are a complete novice go ahead and get some basic instruction . As for most anglers that have been fishing for a good while, you will have developed your own style over the years ( whether you started with instruction or not ) Most people have their little foibles when casting. Now to get to the point of this ramble, you can have all the tuition in the world to alter or improve, but I have found that once " your" style is engrained it is very difficult to start again in another direction, someone said "muscle memory" which I thought was a very apt description, You ain;t gonna change things without having to rethink your style..( What makes you think you need to change anything Sk)
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Post by salmonking on Nov 12, 2008 19:22:13 GMT
Mel, Don't plan on changing anything....
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Post by Speyducer on Nov 12, 2008 19:28:31 GMT
This year & last, I have gone to Canada (Skeena system) for fishing combined with casting (& fishing!) instruction under the expert tuition of Dana Sturn (Speypages.com).
This fishing for new species (Steelhead, Chinook & Bulltrout) in their early spring (early April) was also specifically designed to teach new techniques (Skagit) for myself, as well as brush up on existing casting techniques (Spey & Scandi) and iron out any flaws.
Rather strangely, each of the week's fishing/instruction didn't cost much more than a normal fishing week would be over there, and there was the availability to have instruction every day if needed.
I learnt a whole lot - new casting techniques, how to handle long heavy sink tips with heavy/bulky flies, how to fight out a steelhead, water temperature & conditions, how to read water & so much more; and even new fly tying techniques from the guides (also expert fishermen!); all were very willing to give their time from around 6.45am through to 11pm each day...Sunday fishing also allowed ;D
Despite people mentioning this muscle memory thing, I can now relatively easily switch between casting techniques as necessary; I don't think that one ever gets too old to learn, or too set in one's ways to incorporate ideas & techniques from others who do things quite differently.
Mike
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Post by fisherscottage on Jan 12, 2009 20:26:05 GMT
Hi Guys, Just to let you know, we are having a free open day at Fishers Cottage, all are welcome. We are both fully qualified casting instructors, Fishers Cottage is a REFFIS School of Game Angling, we are consultants and casting instructors for Hardy / Greys, so if you think you have a casting problem, why not pop in and see if we can help.
Sun. 18th Jan
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