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Post by junglecock on Oct 17, 2007 12:02:39 GMT
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Post by G Ritchie on Oct 17, 2007 13:08:50 GMT
It is a spinner.
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Post by charlieH on Oct 17, 2007 13:59:39 GMT
And what's this?
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Post by Willie Gunn on Oct 17, 2007 14:32:13 GMT
And what's this? A historical failure which is probably worth something on EBay.
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Post by junglecock on Oct 17, 2007 14:42:34 GMT
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Post by Speyducer on Oct 17, 2007 15:14:09 GMT
And what's this? It's the Hardy Aero. Standard classical salmon fly dressed on a single iron, and then a nifty little spinner blade, like a 2 bladed aircraft prop, at the front. Patent applied for by Hardy. Not a commercial success, but, as WG said, I think you may get between £10 and £40 at auction - for the hardy name only! Mike
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Post by Speyducer on Oct 17, 2007 15:15:14 GMT
what is it? is it a fly? is it a spinner? Can be used on both fly rod and spinning rod. That is a furry Mepps, a spinner on androgens. Mike
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Post by charlieH on Oct 17, 2007 15:54:31 GMT
WG and 'ducer, you are of course both right (though to be strictly accurate, it is an Aaro rather than aero, named after the Norwegian river). You could also have added that it is a Silver Wilkinson. But you've both missed the point of my question (deliberately, I suspect). Is it a fly or a spinner? Would I be allowed to use it on a fishery where a fly only policy was enforced? Junglecock, why bother with the blade on the front of that hook? Just cut to the chase and tie on one of these!
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Post by Willie Gunn on Oct 17, 2007 16:35:13 GMT
But you've both missed the point of my question (deliberately, I suspect). Charlie; what a terrible suggestion. Junglecock, why bother with the blade on the front of that hook? Just cut to the chase and tie on one of these! That hook was never designed to be measured in anything else but inches.
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Post by Speyducer on Oct 17, 2007 17:01:53 GMT
WG and 'ducer, you are of course both right (though to be strictly accurate, it is an Aaro rather than aero, named after the Norwegian river). You could also have added that it is a Silver Wilkinson. But you've both missed the point of my question (deliberately, I suspect). Is it a fly or a spinner? Would I be allowed to use it on a fishery where a fly only policy was enforced? Junglecock, why bother with the blade on the front of that hook? Just cut to the chase and tie on one of these! Charlie, That's not a hook for today's cutlery chuckers - haven't you heard, they're all for C&R, so big singles are the way to go. (the scale above is in inches, WG) I will be marketing this when I can find a big enough pair of pliers to crimp the barb, and then finish off with a diamond burr. Mike
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Post by salmo on Oct 17, 2007 17:33:14 GMT
what is it? is it a fly? is it a spinner? Can be used on both fly rod and spinning rod. Your top picture is a lure and a nice looking lure for spinning. Does it catch fish? Adding the hairwing section to spinning lures and getting the anglers to experiment with how much spinner they can do without is a good way to get people into fly fishing. It would not be allowed on a fly only section unless deployed on a fly line. I cannot believe a flyfisher would pick this instead of a range of tubes because the water resistance will cause hell with line anchoring. Even if you could cast it out, surely the spinning lure has to be fished pretty fast compared to the preferred speed on a sunk tube and that would ruin the presentation? salmo
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Post by hornet on Oct 17, 2007 20:26:07 GMT
Def looks a spinner to me. Would not like to try and cast that from my fly rod.
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Post by junglecock on Oct 17, 2007 23:22:36 GMT
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Post by robbie on Oct 18, 2007 5:01:15 GMT
Hi Junglecock You are right when you say that most people fly fish on this site. However that is not to say they are anti -spin as a recent poll I posted shows, of 32 replies only 9 did not spin!!!. What we need is more people to post on Spinning, giving details on tackle, lures etc etc and then you will see Spinfishermen emerging from behind the fly rods!!!. I would love to see a post showing all the most popular lures, with pictures and explanations as to when you would use a Flying C as opposed to a Toby etc etc, Some spinning rod reviews would also be useful ? any takers? P.S, Willie Gunn, you are excused duties on this one ;D
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Post by Willie Gunn on Oct 18, 2007 8:09:24 GMT
Wise up guys theres a lot o people oot ther that canny fish the flee but want to learn how and loads o other that start on the cuttlery chucking as you put it who will in future maybe progress to fly fishing. Get of your high horse and encourage all sort of people to join the noble art of fishing............................ Fishing should be for all and not just the money men. (snobs wae fly rods) That’s what I like a balanced reply; chips on both shoulders! Why can't these people fish the fly? The vast majority of rivers North of Inverness are predominately fly only, and the local lads manage fine, they grow up with a fly rod. Fly fishing is no dearer than spinning; in fact I would like to suggest cheaper, the thought of hurling a £7.50 weighted lure into a boulder strewn river would worry me.
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Post by Speyducer on Oct 18, 2007 8:54:21 GMT
Nice one, Malcolm Mike
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Post by fruity on Oct 18, 2007 10:01:30 GMT
I'd say spinning was cheaper as well as being a method in which it is easier to achieve a reasonable standard of success. As long as anglers can cast a reasonable distance without causing excessive disturbance I'd have no problem with accessible stretches being made "fly only" and leaving spinners etc to stretches unaccessible by fly.
My gripe is the careless and inconsiderate anglers, irrespective of whether they use fly or spinner. Messy or double spey casting on a glassy glide, or clumsy wading are things I can not accept from moderately experienced anglers and would happily give them a few choice words and a yellow card. Spinning on inappropriate water, to the detriment of all other anglers, is something I will mention but not get into.
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Post by salmonking on Oct 18, 2007 17:16:24 GMT
Ban the spinner from all rivers in Scotland ,,send the spinners to England,,,,,away ye go,,,, ;D Fly fishing only becomes expensive when you start fishing with frodins turbo disc's etc..
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Post by junglecock on Oct 18, 2007 19:28:45 GMT
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Post by robbie on Oct 18, 2007 19:47:51 GMT
If you are not interested in Spinning then don't read this section simple.
WG and SK, I realise most is tongue in cheek, but your comments are sometimes a bit much. If you want a Fly only section I am sure Salmo will arrange it for you
I am with JC on this and I think he makes a fair comment. JC, I understand your frustration, however most of it was said tongue in cheek, as the spinning poll shows. I will happily post on Spinning, in fact I have been talking to some old pals of mine at the Lure anglers society to get some low down on rods etc and see if one of them will write a spec list and manufacturers reommendations ATB Robbie
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