Speyducer
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Release to spawn another day
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Post by Speyducer on Nov 29, 2007 11:16:58 GMT
What about this then?
Lets hear it from those who still do (or did in a previous life!) enjoy this gentle art.
Views please.
Mike
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Post by zeolite on Dec 2, 2007 9:57:33 GMT
My biggest sea-trout (3 3/4 lbs) was caught on the worm in a wee burn in a big spate. I loved to fish this wee burn as it had lots of wee pools inbetween the very shallow rocky riffles. Very jungle style and impossible to fly fish for most of it. Swivel with a 3 foot trace with enough shot to keep it down. Very simple and engrossing fishing.
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Post by walter mepps on Dec 2, 2007 22:26:55 GMT
have tried worm fishing,reminds me of sitting in the library with a very dull book & nearly every fish caught on worm has to be killed as they take to far down ,after all its only livebaiting!
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Post by zeolite on Dec 3, 2007 8:50:36 GMT
have tried worm fishing,reminds me of sitting in the library with a very dull book & nearly every fish caught on worm has to be killed as they take to far down ,after all its only livebaiting! mmm a troll On what rivers' bridge do you hide under?
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Post by fletchyahoor on Dec 4, 2007 14:15:41 GMT
Fishing the worm properly can be just as difficult as fishing a fly. After all, some of the modern flies resemble a spinner more than anything natural. There are some rivers (pools) where it is impossible to fish a fly or a spinner and therefore the worm is an alternative. Why should an angler not fish with the intentional of covering all parts of a river and, also, when a river is in a broon flood, the good old worm will at least give you something to do! There's no need to be blinkered.
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knoxy
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Post by knoxy on Dec 4, 2007 15:44:57 GMT
All types of fishing take skill and dedication. As previous posters have noted there is an awful lot of skill involved in trotting a worm. I have spent many an enjoyable hour watching and observing a couple of elderly gentlemen on the Ythan indulge in worm fishing. The patience and touch they use are something you have to see and after talking to them at length i discovered that they would be unable to fish if they could not worm as their joints can't cope with fly fishing. I think it is a bit snobbish to belittle anyone else's legal sport (as frequently happens on other forums and clubs) and believe that it is necessary to continue to allow worming and spinning for everyone to use. I only indulge in the wriggler at certain times and places during the season as i prefer to fly fish but i would not like to see mine or anyone else's choice being taken away. My sneaking suspicion is that the main reason for Fly only is so that they can charge more
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Post by zeolite on Dec 5, 2007 22:04:07 GMT
A lot has been said about deep hooking fish when worming. I have caught a few fish when trotting a worm (no salmon though) and have deep hooked precisely none. If you are keeping in touch with the worm then you will feel it stop just like a fly.
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logie
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Post by logie on Dec 5, 2007 22:35:18 GMT
If you are genuinely lip hooking then I see no reason why this should be discouraged but I have read many reports where worm fishers try and do the exact opposite.
logie
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2007 0:19:49 GMT
I worm fished for seatrout and salmon during the 70's and 80's not since probably due due to lack of opportunity.
Worm fishing a narrow spate river IMHO carries every bit as much skill as fly. Casting a fly needs practice, but its not the most enjoyable thing to do on a narrow stream. Hooking a fish on worm takes a lot more skill than on the fly and is more exciting altogether.
Assuming we are trotting a worm through the necks of pools and walking past the statics.
The agro seems to me to be more based on the different speeds that fly and bait fishers fish down the river - fly seem to think that bait fishers hog the best pools and stay there and that may be the case. More than slightly incompatible IMHO.
M
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tweedsider
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Post by tweedsider on Dec 6, 2007 11:18:33 GMT
Used to worm fish for trout frequently, mostly in teens when indulged in casting across and downstream like wet fly fishing. This took place in a minor trbutary of Tweed which boasted few but excellent trout. Later graduated to upstream worm for trout in low water summer again with fly rod and line. Very delicate in a few inches of water. Caught two seatrout on Dulnain many years ago with above method but have not fished bait in fresh water for over 30 years.
Tweedsider
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alta
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Post by alta on Dec 15, 2007 11:45:47 GMT
I worm fished for seatrout and salmon during the 70's and 80's not since probably due due to lack of opportunity. Worm fishing a narrow spate river IMHO carries every bit as much skill as fly. Casting a fly needs practice, but its not the most enjoyable thing to do on a narrow stream. Hooking a fish on worm takes a lot more skill than on the fly and is more exciting altogether. Assuming we are trotting a worm through the necks of pools and walking past the statics. The agro seems to me to be more based on the different speeds that fly and bait fishers fish down the river - fly seem to think that bait fishers hog the best pools and stay there and that may be the case. More than slightly incompatible IMHO. M Worm fishing takes skill but not as much as is claimed. I read a lot of bullshit about the importance of flies and lures looking natural in order to entice a take and I sometimes think this is 180deg wrong. I cannot prove this but I am more inclined to believe that the salmon is attacking something that looks unnatural. The success of worm fishers here in Norway seems to be no coincidence. Apart from the suitability of the technique for fishing in deep holes, many worm fisher do exactly as you describe and trot their bait through some fast water with great success. The worm or any creature of that size would never be able to hold station in that kind of flow. alta
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salmo
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Post by salmo on Dec 15, 2007 22:13:53 GMT
I think you have a point about salmon taking theories. A lot of books are a bit rigid on what to expect and noone really knows what works until they see it for themselves.
salmo
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Post by neptune on Dec 27, 2007 22:14:00 GMT
ive never tried fishing for worms, what fly do you use ;D ;D
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robert
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Post by robert on Mar 15, 2008 19:14:47 GMT
When i lived in the Isle of Man there was a small burn about four to six yards across at the front of the house which was almost completely overgrown. I cut a few holes in the trees for access and trotted a worm down the runs. To feel the salmon lifting the worm and letting go and then lifting and moving off with it is the most exciting thing i have experienced and trying to get them out?? Bob
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