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Post by 48fisher on Jan 21, 2010 13:53:57 GMT
I'm thinking of changing my usual mono line that I use for spinning and worming to a braid line. I am thinking of using powerpro green braid 20lb. Would I need to do anything to prevent line twist as I do at the moment by using anti-kink vanes and would using a length of mono between the swivel and hook or spinner be a good idea? I understand the need to use a mono base when spooling the line its at the hooking end I'm looking for help. Having said the above would the adage of "its not broken so don't try fixing it" be the best idea and stick with using mono?
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herbie29
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Post by herbie29 on Jan 21, 2010 15:09:35 GMT
I have used braid before for worming and yes it is better to use a short length of mono from swivel to hook/spinner but I have reverted back to mono as I found that as there in no give in the braid it resulted in loosing more fish through pulled hooks. Also I found that when worming having to bounce your worms along the bottom when you get hanked on the bottom it was a bit harder to free up and a lot of the time had to tighten up the clutch and brake the line OK on the mono it will brake quite easily but if its the braid thats a different matter. What I do now is load my spinning reel with fly line backing leaving enough room for 100 meters of my 8-15 lbs line what ever I choose that way when you have your chosen reel big enough for the river and size of salmon/sea-trout in it when I change my mono line every year it is only 100 meters and not the 200-300 meters that the reel holds of which only about 100 meters ever see it past your rod tip if you are lucky enough to get a big fish. ;D ;D ;D So in the end as you said if it ain't broke don't fix Herbie
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Post by diggerdawg on Jan 21, 2010 22:28:13 GMT
I thought I'd throw my penny's worth in... I like braid and do a lot of trolling with very long lines so braid is essential. I've used many different sorts but the last one I bought was on ebay and imported from China. Its called Spectra Braid and is very good and abrasion proof. I bought yellow and black/grey and both are fine. Comparing it to UK supplied braid, I saved a fortune even with the postage and the quality is as good as anything else I've purchased. It arrived within a week so no worse than some UK suppliers. I use it for spinning and worming too and never had a problem dropping fish. Hope that helps.
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fredo
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Post by fredo on Jan 22, 2010 13:28:06 GMT
I have used braid quite a bit. Berkley Whiplash Pro is ok but lacks abrasion resistance. Try this one- www.uk-hooks.com/details.php?selected=205It has great abrasion resistance and has a flat profile which helps when casting.
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Post by 48fisher on Feb 2, 2010 14:35:40 GMT
Thanks for the advice, I think that I will buy some and try it before swithching over completely to braid.
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Post by marcella on May 30, 2011 10:24:39 GMT
What Chinese site did you use. I have used dh gate and found it poor enough.
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Post by brokenbank on Jun 1, 2011 0:12:43 GMT
I've never used braid but have talked at length with anglers that do use it. I was told Powerpro is popular, most anglers use mono from the swivel to the lure and some have changed back to mono because there is no give with braid and they felt it had lost them fish. When asked why they preferred braid, nearly all said it was because it was thinner and they could spool more line and also they could cast further.
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Speyducer
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Post by Speyducer on Jun 1, 2011 14:44:24 GMT
For salmon, I've only used floating braid on a couple of occasions in Ireland when I tried it for trotting down a floated shrimp many years ago.
I've used braid for pike, carp, barbel & chub, and only once ever lost a fish (a fiesty barbel of about 8-9lbs) due to there being very little stretch in the 2' nylon hook-link and the rod at it's max. bend, and the fish straightened the hook.
I have never really done much serious spinning for salmon, but there is a good argument for using braid when using light spinning lures (small mepps, light rapalas) as these light lures do cast much better with very thin mainline, and that's what the modern GSP's (gel spun polyethylene braids) do best for the required breakstrain of the line used.
I use GSP's as backing on all or most of my fly reels though, as the diameter of the line is very small for the breakstrain, and therefore you can fit more backing on the reel.
A wee look at a recent purchase showed the 51kg breakstrain (115lbs) of Spiderwire GSP reveals it has a diameter of 0.35mm, or the equivalent of about 15-18lb nylon.
My usual GSP for backing is Berkley Whiplash Pro - it has never let me down, and I can get ~ 300m of it (100lb bs) on a Danielsson 11fourteen, and then fit any fly line or head+running line on top of that with plenty room to spare.
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fredo
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Post by fredo on Jun 1, 2011 18:16:25 GMT
Whiplash Pro is very good.........it is a popular line with both boat and shore sea anglers. It has one drawback in that it has terrible abrasion resistance compared to some other braided lines. This one is my favourite- www.uk-hooks.com/details.php?selected=205It has a flat profile and a relatively large diameter compared to Whiplash, but it has never failed me.
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Post by thunderflash on Sept 3, 2011 9:48:26 GMT
suffix braid is the best by far followed by power pro, suffix is not cheap but worth the money, depends how you are fishing but bite detection is much firmer with braid used for coarse fishermen for years so i cant see any reason why not to use for salmon, just have your drag set a little lighter to allow for the zero stretch.
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conwyrod
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Post by conwyrod on Sept 3, 2011 10:53:43 GMT
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kreid
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Post by kreid on Sept 16, 2011 11:21:51 GMT
have to say 20 lbs seems light, I used 30 lb power pro but once a fish wnet down into some rocks and the braid rashed along a rock....fish gone. Braid just isn't as abrasion resistant as , say Maxima but it does have other advantages...I now use 42 lb power pro, the red stuff. The yellow was good for seeing where your line was, esp in low light , but I also always use a few feet of 15 lbs maxina as a shock absorber, then a Fox quik link at the end. K.
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