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Post by fruity on Sept 29, 2007 18:42:59 GMT
Some of the salmon flies on the Inverness Angling Club site are very poorly tied, fat heads and bodies, hair not tied in properly etc. Other flies are fine.
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Post by stu47 on Oct 2, 2007 16:31:46 GMT
www.laxeninorr.com/tubflugor.htm Some tubes flies,click on the fly for a bigger veiw,only thing is it is in Swedish,if you want any pattern i think i can translate it
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Post by Speyducer on Oct 2, 2007 17:33:51 GMT
www.laxeninorr.com/tubflugor.htm Some tubes flies,click on the fly for a bigger veiw,only thing is it is in Swedish,if you want any pattern i think i can translate it Super flies, tubes & Spey flies. Quality tyings, and translations not really necessary. Mike
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Post by fruity on Oct 2, 2007 17:42:28 GMT
Some of them have too thick/long an underwing with the result that the tip of the wing won't be able to move/quiver very well.
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Post by stu47 on Oct 2, 2007 17:58:12 GMT
Fruity,thats as may be all patterns are open to interpritation,they are not my flies,but i would be interested in you showing me what you mean though
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Post by fruity on Oct 2, 2007 18:35:13 GMT
Sadly, having a camera with a duff macro facility and being unable to get a scan of one of my templedog’s from my scanner, I have taken the liberty of borrowing a picture of a “Sillen” from the Spring 99 edition of Atlantic Salmon Review (Pekka won’t mind). You will see from the photo that the black overwing is longer than the white underwing by quite a margin and this free’s the thin black hair to move a lot more than if joined to the underwing. You will also notice that the underwing is dressed so that it does not touch the body, this is not a mistake, it is actually fundamental to the dressing of a templedog. This underwing is in effect a spring in itself and also acts as a spring for the thin black overwing with the effect of exacerbating the movement of the black overwing. Making a templedog is not just a case of throwing together a few materials to make it look like a picture of whatever fly, it requires a thorough knowledge of the materials to create a lure that gets the best from the nature of the materials so that the lure becomes alive in the water, like a wing and hackle working actively in the current. While a couple of the templedogs on the previously listed site are getting in the right direction, most have a underwing and overwing which are merged into a single wing of often the wrong fuzzy materials and the result is a blob that won’t move well in the water. The Mikkeli Blue is getting in the right direction but the underwing has no spring in it and is just too long because it won’t let the overwing tip quiver very well.
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Post by stu47 on Oct 2, 2007 18:51:02 GMT
I caught my last fish of the season on this moves lovely in the water
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Post by salmo on Oct 2, 2007 18:58:48 GMT
www.laxeninorr.com/tubflugor.htm Some tubes flies,click on the fly for a bigger veiw,only thing is it is in Swedish,if you want any pattern i think i can translate it Stu, That's a really nice offer to translate. Some of the experienced tyers might not need it as they will know exactly how to construct the fly in sequence; but some newcomers to tying would definitely appreciate any step by steps you can muster up in your spare time. salmo
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Post by fruity on Oct 2, 2007 19:05:33 GMT
Dear QnQ
The scanned image is as good as it will get, it is not available online. However, for the purposes of demonstrating the points re over and under wings it does the job.
Dressing: Tag is silver holo tinsel, body is lite bright pearl blue flash, ribbing is silver wire, two front hackles are blue (smaller first then larger at front), underwing is white fox hair, blue and silver holo flashabou over this, black fox hair as overwing, jungle cock cheeks.
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Post by Speyducer on Oct 2, 2007 19:08:55 GMT
I caught my last fish of the season on this moves lovely in the water Stu, Is this the fly that I have seen labelled (and I use that term advisedly) as Willie Gunn Conehead tube? Looks a great autumn fly. Mike
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Post by Speyducer on Oct 2, 2007 19:15:10 GMT
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Post by robbie on Oct 2, 2007 19:24:15 GMT
My god, where do you start!! I know we could all probably get away for ever with a couple of old trad tubes and a Silver Stoat. But that is not fishing is it? Coarse anglers have floats, we have flies. I would love to have the skills to tie well, Speyducer - any of those will do me!!
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Post by Speyducer on Oct 2, 2007 19:24:17 GMT
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Post by Speyducer on Oct 2, 2007 19:30:20 GMT
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Post by fruity on Oct 2, 2007 19:41:04 GMT
Some of those other flies are cracking but others are jokes, interesting site. On the Partridge site the Frodin templedogs look ok to excellent, but the salar flies look quite poor and I'd be concerned about putting my name to some of those. Dear QnQ As previously stated, the templedogs won't scan on my scanner, probably to do with their bulk and the fixed focusing distance of the scanner to just the face of the scanner. I had a scanned image of my normal flies on the old forum but here is the best scanned picture of any flies that I could find. The wings of two Allys look too big but that is just the reflection on the background.
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Post by fruity on Oct 2, 2007 19:57:38 GMT
Yes I did tie them, the lower ally is on a in-curved salar and there is a small piece of ethafoam stuck to it, the dressing of the wing is different. I prefer slim flies, and I saw some crackers in the recent edition of Fly Fishing and Fly Tying, grilse flies with just a little dressing made them absolutely scrumptious.
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Post by stu47 on Oct 2, 2007 20:13:48 GMT
Mike, made for my last cast of the season so labelled it that. Salmo,i have pictures of a step by step i did of this on the salmon forum,dont have the time just now By the way Mike,some lovely flies on them sites,worth keeping for referance
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Post by Speyducer on Oct 2, 2007 20:36:25 GMT
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Post by lamson on Oct 2, 2007 21:40:44 GMT
.....are those made in BB land? Stop that bollox right now!! The late Alan Clark will be looking down , perhaps with a wry smile ?
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Post by fruity on Oct 3, 2007 7:37:12 GMT
While I don't agree that wording is offensive, I have removed it upon request.
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