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Post by jim2012 on Jun 18, 2012 8:01:52 GMT
Hi all am new here so be gentle :)am new to fishing and I have just got a spinning rod And a permit so could someone tell me what good spinners I would need etc to catch salmlon and trout thanks inadvance
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Post by Willie Gunn on Jun 18, 2012 8:17:16 GMT
Don't
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Post by dunkeld on Jun 18, 2012 8:22:20 GMT
Hi all am new here so be gentle :)am new to fishing and I have just got a spinning rod And a permit so could someone tell me what good spinners I would need etc to catch salmlon and trout thanks inadvance Hi Jim and welcome to the forum. You say you have the permit! What river is this? If its allowed on your chosen river within appropriate river height etc, then a flying condom is a good all rounder or rappala countdown, even a Mepp can do the business. A lot depends on the river in question, but the above should be good to go for now.
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Post by jim2012 on Jun 18, 2012 8:28:46 GMT
Thanks for the reply the river Irvine in Kilmarnock just what size would I get on the flying condom and meps etc
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Post by jim2012 on Jun 18, 2012 8:34:49 GMT
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Post by dunkeld on Jun 18, 2012 8:46:56 GMT
Thanks for the reply the river Irvine in Kilmarnock just what size would I get on the flying condom and meps etc I would assume the river Irvine would need to be at a pre-determined level to spin Jim. That being the case a 50 or 70mm Rapalla or 15grm FC would suffice in most of the pools.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 9:16:05 GMT
i think willie was meaning don't spin if you must spin, and i guess we all did at first, a flying c or a toby would be best for your river i think. even a mepp as dunkeld suggests, cos the irvine ain't that big. personally i hate rapallas (christmas trees). i can't believe that folk would want to fling out something so festooned with trebles. the potential for damaging a fish must be quite big ?
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Post by jim2012 on Jun 18, 2012 10:15:20 GMT
Thanks for the advice I have tried fly fishing but keep bending my wrist :/
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Post by dunkeld on Jun 18, 2012 10:25:51 GMT
Thanks for the advice I have tried fly fishing but keep bending my wrist :/ An hour with a good tuitor will sort that out and this chap will do that for you no problem: www.speygillie.co.uk/So give him a call and get the limp wrist action sorted out ;D ;D ;D
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Post by ibm59 on Jun 18, 2012 12:20:01 GMT
i think willie was meaning don't spin Even Sur Wullie o' the Glumms would be picking up his trusty spinning wand if he was restricted to fishing only the Irvine. There is fly water , but the bulk of the river is far better suited to spinning tactics. But seeing as you know how wide the Irvine is , you'll probably know that already.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 17:53:32 GMT
never fished it but seen it in passing a few times. does it have a good run of fish?
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Post by jim2012 on Jun 18, 2012 18:58:56 GMT
So what kind of fly rod would be good for beginner?
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Post by flamethrower123 on Jun 18, 2012 19:43:48 GMT
jim a good selection would be abu tobies in various colours silver,copper ,and zebra in mixture of sizes 7grms to 12grms ,flyin c in 10 to 12 grm s red &gold ,black &gold and hot orange& gold and size 3 mepps wil cover it .where about in killie will you be fishin ask the club president for a tour im sure he would be happy to help
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Post by Sagecaster on Jun 18, 2012 19:50:27 GMT
The secret to casting is getting your outfit balanced as well as your technique correct, so before you go spending money on the wrong tackle, for follow Dunkeld's advice and spend some money on tuition. Try this guy www.salmon-fishing-scotland.com/, one of the best communicators in casting technique out there.
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Post by salmo on Jul 14, 2012 9:18:40 GMT
If spinning is allowed on your water then it is obviously OK to fish this way but a lot of people enjoy the action of fly fishing more than spinning. A day spent spinning without a fish can be rather dull but a blank day spent spey casting can be very enjoyable.
I have fished in many places where spinners and fly fishers co-exist happily as long as the spinners move down the pool in a reasonable manner. However, I am convinced that once salmon leave the sea they are more likely to be enticed by a fly than a spinner so in general the fly catches more fish.
One thing you might want to try if you are limited in casting ability or if conditions dictate, is simply using a fly on a float or a ledgered weight if this is allowed.
For surface conditions you can use a water filled float with a few feet of line to the fly. You can vary the amount of water in the bubble and present the fly roughly at the depth present by the fly fisher. One advantage is that you can trot the fly over difficult lies and even cast upstream.
For deep conditions or rivers with giant boulders or deep waterfall pools you can use a weight on a dropper to get the fly really deep. Remember to use non-toxic weights and ensure that the line to the weight is weaker than the line to the fly.
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