fruity
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Post by fruity on Nov 15, 2007 10:12:13 GMT
Well Robbie, I must be an exception. Apparently, I can not only catch 20 fish in a morning (Apparently as per an certain poster), but I am also 6 to 8 different people who presumably live in as many places. The person who runs this web site has also been accused of being myself, unfortunately I have absolutely no recollection of any of these experiences ... hardly surprising considering the reality.
Being 6 to 8 people, or is it 9?, I must surely defy exact description (or at least polite description!) and therefore it would be impossible for me to come with any guarantee.
(Admin Note: This post has been edited by admin to remove a remark about a well known professional game angling instuctors association)
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robbie
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Post by robbie on Nov 15, 2007 12:39:02 GMT
Dear Fruity, I see you have used this forum to continue your personal battles. This forum is not a sanctuary for you to hide in while you fight your campaign. I suggest you modify your post and continue your battles elsewhere.
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fruity
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Post by fruity on Nov 15, 2007 13:18:51 GMT
Dear Robbie You mention a personal battle, a sancturary, fight and campaign. Please explain your statements and self off forum.
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robbie
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Post by robbie on Nov 15, 2007 13:28:26 GMT
Stop your games now. You know exactly what I mean as does everyone else. I will not go off forum sort it out NOW.
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fruity
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Post by fruity on Nov 15, 2007 13:37:52 GMT
Dear Robbie Since you refused to explain I've sent a PM to admin.
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robbie
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Post by robbie on Nov 15, 2007 13:39:25 GMT
Good for you.
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ibm59
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Post by ibm59 on Nov 15, 2007 15:03:53 GMT
Dear Robbie Since you refused to explain I've sent a PM to admin. Oh Dear. " I'll tell teacher on you " A sound thrashing and off to your cot with no supper's what you need Fruity , old bean. Just the thing for a big wean like you. Pity you didn't do any work on your personality when you were " re-born "
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Post by neptune on Nov 15, 2007 17:26:54 GMT
i notice quite a few threads start with a good discussion, some very interesting points being made then it happens the petty arguments so can we please get back to the main subjects this forum was set up for sk i agree there are too many aliens but on the plus side youll be kept busy building their houses
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severnfisher
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Post by severnfisher on Nov 15, 2007 17:27:28 GMT
I'm personally sick to death of the relentless scapegoating of migrant workers illegal or not. Do we have to have it on this site too?
In my work (trade union education and organising) I get a very good first hand look at what the realities of life are for rightless migrant workers. Can we have a reality check please. Guys working in the security industry and paid well below the minimum wage are not about to buy executive houses on Tweedside or in the Spey valley. There are, however, a few people out there making a lot of money out of that filthy business of exploiting midgrant labour. I guess some of them spend it on 'top class' salmon fishing and various other outdoor pursuits enjoyed by both the old and new rich.
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Post by neptune on Nov 15, 2007 17:38:30 GMT
i have been in full time employment since i left school, paid tax with out 1 rebate & never had the luxury of benifits i had the "pleasure" to work with immigrants who used to complain that they were being ripped off byn the agency bosses they would get a wage of maybe £250 of this £100 would be deducted to cover living expenses ie. digs,food,transport etc. how many of us could pay rent buy food for the week, cover transport costs & still have well over half your £250 wages left
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robbie
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Post by robbie on Nov 15, 2007 17:59:38 GMT
Hey Guys, This is in danger of turning into a witch hunt. I fear it will turn into an ugly, tit for tat thread with people trying to out do each other with examples of alleged misuse of the State, Benefits system etc. I am sure we could all find many examples of "home grown" misuse without too much effort.................but please for my sake don't.
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Post by salmo on Nov 17, 2007 10:49:57 GMT
Let the debate roll but put in the lounge. There are a lot of things that need fixing and the fundamental principle of democracy is that people should be able to voice their opinions.
salmo
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Post by charliethompson on Nov 18, 2007 0:13:26 GMT
I'm personally sick to death of the relentless scapegoating of migrant workers illegal or not. Do we have to have it on this site too? In my work (trade union education and organising) I get a very good first hand look at what the realities of life are for rightless migrant workers. Can we have a reality check please. Guys working in the security industry and paid well below the minimum wage are not about to buy executive houses on Tweedside or in the Spey valley. There are, however, a few people out there making a lot of money out of that filthy business of exploiting midgrant labour. I guess some of them spend it on 'top class' salmon fishing and various other outdoor pursuits enjoyed by both the old and new rich. I totally agree, I'm sick of people blaming the poorest, and most vunerable for the fact that decent hard working people in this country are struggling to make ends meet. Easy meat! The problem is and always has been the greedy, smug, self righteous Rich milking us dry for their own personal gain. Who employs these scrounging degenerate immigrants? Why do they employ them? It's the ridiculously rich of course they could not give a feck about queen and country or anything in it. Where do these people bank and pay taxes? Who bleats on about about family values and single mothers whilst sending their kids to boarding school and employing nannies. Aye pick on skint immigrants who's only crime is to try to make a few bob for themselves and their families.
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Post by logie on Nov 18, 2007 11:35:08 GMT
I'm personally sick to death of the relentless scapegoating of migrant workers illegal or not. Do we have to have it on this site too? In my work (trade union education and organising) I get a very good first hand look at what the realities of life are for rightless migrant workers. Can we have a reality check please. Guys working in the security industry and paid well below the minimum wage are not about to buy executive houses on Tweedside or in the Spey valley. There are, however, a few people out there making a lot of money out of that filthy business of exploiting midgrant labour. I guess some of them spend it on 'top class' salmon fishing and various other outdoor pursuits enjoyed by both the old and new rich. I totally agree, I'm sick of people blaming the poorest, and most vunerable for the fact that decent hard working people in this country are struggling to make ends meet. Easy meat! The problem is and always has been the greedy, smug, self righteous Rich milking us dry for their own personal gain. Who employs these scrounging degenerate immigrants? Why do they employ them? It's the ridiculously rich of course they could not give a feck about queen and country or anything in it. Where do these people bank and pay taxes? Who bleats on about about family values and single mothers whilst sending their kids to boarding school and employing nannies. Aye pick on skint immigrants who's only crime is to try to make a few bob for themselves and their families. Totally with you on this. It is totally wrong to pick on immigrants. Also the immigrant workers are needed in many ways to do the jobs that everyone else wants to avoid. The UK economy would collapse without low cost labour. The big problem is that with the EC expanding there is no control over numbers coming in to the country. logie
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