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Post by northwestern on Oct 19, 2008 10:49:26 GMT
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Post by sinkingtip on Oct 19, 2008 11:12:09 GMT
How about somewhere in the Barents Sea ? Tackle ? - 2 miles of monofil mesh netting and a decent winching device. But seriously, this late in the season if there is any fishing still available (apart from late cancellations) then you have to question "why" ? - it might be that its simply not worth having - the word "worth" being relative of course ....... £40 / 50 for a rod in hand stroll down some piece of riverbank with maybe the chance of a fish might very well be considered good value by some. From a Scottish perspective, a quick trawl through the various 'Fishscotland' sites could throw up possibilities on the Annan, Nith, Tweed, Earn and Angus Esk's - some of which fish at least to the end of October and through November. Flee's ? Sizes ? 1-2" and garish !! Welcome to the forum. regards STip
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Post by northwestern on Oct 19, 2008 13:13:38 GMT
Thanks for the reply S-tip,where i come from i think only the Garynahaine river is open until end of october so im fairly limited. My home river is the river creed which had a very good end to the season but unfortunately it ends on the 15th of october although there is some talk of this being extended until the end of the month,we live in hope! The first 2-3 months of the season were a total waste of time with a serious lack of water,apart from one wee spate i think that was it untill october. Unfortunately the spate came at the same time as i was moving house and i got no fishing done!!! Maybe opening the the season on 1st May and closing it on Oct 31st is the way to catch the river with a decent level of water in it early and late?
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Post by sinkingtip on Oct 19, 2008 13:56:34 GMT
Hi NW - good to have someone from the Western Isles on board. Look forward to some info on the rivers and lochs up your neck of the woods. A 'doon hamer' living in Lewis ?? ...... s'pose theres not much difference. regards STip
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Post by builnacraig on Oct 19, 2008 16:38:08 GMT
Get yourself down to the Stinchar, Scotland's finest back end river (in the small to medium category ). There is still fishing available at Knockdolian, fly only, only problem could be the leaves It gets a good run of fresh fish at the end of the season. See www.fishbritain.co.uk/Ayrshire/Knockdolian/?dom=Ayrshire for details. Builnacraig
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Post by builnacraig on Oct 19, 2008 16:42:20 GMT
My home river is the river creed which had a very good end to the season but unfortunately it ends on the 15th of october although there is some talk of this being extended until the end of the month,we live in hope! I can't believe what you are saying, we have so much water in Ayrshire this summer. It was dry in April/May but from June onwards no shortage of water, too much in fact for my beat in the lower Ayr. Nice wee river the Creed, I presume you know Fredo, Master of Ceremonies in the Outer Hebrides Builnacraig
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Post by fredo on Oct 19, 2008 17:10:53 GMT
Hi northwestern. If you are desperate for a late season kipper bash in the Hebrides then Laxay and the Obbe (possibly) are open until the end of the month. Garynahine shut on the 15th October along with the majority of the island fisheries. There are a whole variety of reasons why the Creed opens on 1st June and closes on 15th Oct. If you feel a longer season would be better bring it up at the Stornoway Angling Association AGM next March. I will tell you then why it is best left the way it is. You can get a better idea of how the Creed fishes by looking at the 5 year averages for each month. From that you will see that October is normally very quiet. The periods of good fishing are entirely dictated by the weather as you would expect in any spate river. Of the 70 or so salmon taken in the 13 days fishing in October I know of only one fresh fish. (One of the 18 I landed). Everything else was described as well coloured or black. So there is no back end run to target. As for Ayrshire, we shall see Bully. If I come visiting next Sept/Oct and blank then...... You could of course try for one of them; www.stornowaysac.co.uk/home/forum/thread.aspx?id=522&forum=Sea%20Fishing&topic=159%20lb%20Common%20SkateI can assure you they help pass the time when the salmon season closes!
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Post by northwestern on Oct 19, 2008 19:06:27 GMT
Hi fredo, im not after no kipper bash just living in hope of that one fresh fish! Like i said the best fishing this year was at the same time i moved house but im sure everyone,yourself included, will agree the lack of water this year was a pain in the a**.I understand the reasons for the close of season on the 15th but why not open on the 1st of May?The odd kelt and smolt maybe would be caught but surely everyone would recognise and release these fish carefully?
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Post by fredo on Oct 24, 2008 5:32:13 GMT
Again, from looking at the 5 year average for the Creed in June you will see the norm is 2-3 fish. This is despite good water and heavy angling pressure on several occasions. The fact is the Creed is a summer spate river with no spring or back end run. Apart from protecting smolts, kelts and gravid fish the current season allows those of us looking after the place a period in the spring and autumn when we can shift boats, repair pools, etc without the added hassle of keeping an eye on the anglers. For a very modest fee you can fish when you want from 1st June-15th October.......plenty time for a fish or two. (I am biased..........I care far more about the river and fish than I do about the anglers).
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Post by northwestern on Oct 24, 2008 17:34:10 GMT
What about this then. I know you and a group of others do alot for the river including stocking. How about trying to encourage a spring run by stocking in particular areas of the feeder streams and burns.I watched a programme about the river beauly,it said that the earlier the fish ran the river the further up the system it ran and the later the fish ran the river, visa versa.Surely a spring run could only be a good thing for the river and the anglers ?
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Post by builnacraig on Oct 24, 2008 19:17:32 GMT
Hi NW,
If there was supposed to be a spring run on the Creed there would be one. The only realistic chance of a springer on the islands is on the Langavat system but even there there has only been 19 salmon caught earlier than June in the last five years, talk about a needle in a haystack!
The Creed is only about 8 miles long max, so it is hardly a long swim requiring entry in the spring. A salmon could run on the 15th Nov and be on the upper redds a couple of days later. I also know from personal experience that there are salmon redds in the smallest upper tributaries on the Creed.
I think you should appreciate it for what it is, an excellent wee summer and early autumn grilse fishery with the odd double figure one thrown in to keep you awake.
Yours,
Builnacraig
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