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Post by jackfish on Oct 23, 2014 10:01:52 GMT
Looking for either of the above rods in 14' other sizes may be considered. Please P.M. with anything you may have.
Rgds
Bryan
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Post by devronmac on Oct 23, 2014 10:56:22 GMT
Glasgow Angling Centre are advertising a Loop 'Adventure' 15ft rod in T&S magazine(back cover page) for £94...any use ?
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Post by jackfish on Oct 23, 2014 18:06:57 GMT
No use I'm afraid, looking for the Traditional or Cross 1
Ta
Bryan
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Post by ptg on Oct 24, 2014 20:40:03 GMT
The cross is more a tool for s/h and is different in action by far to the marksman T. Marksman S is more in line with the cross!
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Post by jackfish on Oct 25, 2014 12:08:24 GMT
I have used the Marksman T and it is dream to cast, very forgiving a cracking rod IMHO & I think anyone could cast it well. I also like the Loop rods having owned the Greenline 13'2" (which I should never have gotten rid of) and have test cast several more, very good rods that suit my style of casting. Either of the above would suit me.
ATB
Bryan
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Post by jackfish on Nov 12, 2014 11:10:44 GMT
Bump, Anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 13:27:50 GMT
The Marxman's are being phased out soon so if you can afford to wait for one you will probably pick one for thirty bob and a packet of Spangles as they are withdrawn from sale. The Cross S1 is a whole different ball game and the best you can probably expect is 20% or maybe 25% if you shop round for a new one. www.silversalmon.co.uk
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Post by jackfish on Nov 14, 2014 19:12:52 GMT
Hopefully they will be phased out soon enough then, will have to try and catch a bargain when they come up.
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Post by herbie29 on Dec 14, 2014 4:03:11 GMT
Bryan
Glasgow angling has the 14' marksman 2 T 520 quid with just 1 left if that is any help
Herbie
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 18:37:53 GMT
John Norris are selling the Marksman T which in my opinion is a much better model than the Marksman S, for about three hundred quid. They have 13ft, 14ft and 15ft rods in stock. www.silversalmon.co.uk
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Post by jackfish on Dec 26, 2014 21:45:43 GMT
Cheers lads, managed to pick up a 14' from John Norris so that's me sorted. Just need a line to suit now! Any suggestions welcome
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Post by sorb on Jan 3, 2015 21:52:03 GMT
Rio outbound 8/9 or 9/10, I preferred the 9/10 like to feel the rod load. Rio skagit 600g. Gaelforce lines are good too. Good luck
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Post by jackfish on Jan 4, 2015 11:20:27 GMT
Quite fancy the Rio Outbound lines, very expensive at £75 a pop though!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 18:35:09 GMT
The Rio Outbound is a bit of an oddity. The whole shooting head concept was developed with the intention that you carry a running line and a set of heads float thru to very fast sink. You can then very readily swap the head to marry up to the speed of the pool that you are fishing. The Outbound completely negates this possibility and only provides the option of fishing a floating head. This to me is kind of bonkers and I have never understood why anglers buy into it. Surely it makes more sense to be able to adapt as the need takes you www.silversalmon.co.uk
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Post by G Ritchie on Jan 4, 2015 20:45:25 GMT
An integrated line is usefull on smaller rivers, where you are fishing a shorter line. It can be a bit annoying when the junction between the running line and head keeps rattling through the rod rings, which would happen frequently with a standard shooting head setup.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 21:18:23 GMT
An integrated line is usefull on smaller rivers, where you are fishing a shorter line. It can be a bit annoying when the junction between the running line and head keeps rattling through the rod rings, which would happen frequently with a standard shooting head setup. I take your point but wouldn't necessarily agree with it. If fishing a smaller river then I would use a smaller rod with a shorter head. Casting a longer rod with part of the head inside the front ring be it integrated or separate will not effectively load the rod. It is of course a matter of personal choice but I would consider it a poor option to have a rod under loaded which may hamper your cast and then even in a moderate flow of water potentially swing too fast as floating lines can and usually do and not fish effectively. Surely this provides the worst of both worlds? www.silversalmon.co.uk
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Post by G Ritchie on Jan 4, 2015 21:33:58 GMT
I would also fish a shorter rod on smaller rivers, but still prefer the integrated head. Where the pools widen out, you would have the head outside the tip ring, but in the necks of the pools or narrower sections you would have to cast with some of the head back in the rings. It is quite easy to do by altering the casting stroke and distance is not really an issue. It is all really a compromise. Floating lines can fish extremely effectively, I catch the majority of my fish over the season on them and in summer at least a fast swing is often an advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 21:49:45 GMT
In fairness the Outbound is a really big seller for Guide Fly Fishing who bring them in from Rio. Personally I hate the bloody things and always have. I try to steer most of the people I teach away from them as I feel that they don't cast or fish particularly well. My reasons for this are as I have already stated but once again it is a matter of personal choice. www.silversalmon.co.uk
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Post by G Ritchie on Jan 4, 2015 21:55:17 GMT
I generally dont use the outbound either, the much cheaper Norris line works fine for these applications.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 9:05:06 GMT
I would also fish a shorter rod on smaller rivers, but still prefer the integrated head. Where the pools widen out, you would have the head outside the tip ring, but in the necks of the pools or narrower sections you would have to cast with some of the head back in the rings. It is quite easy to do by altering the casting stroke and distance is not really an issue. It is all really a compromise. Floating lines can fish extremely effectively, I catch the majority of my fish over the season on them and in summer at least a fast swing is often an advantage. I'd agree with that, especially here at Cardrona on the upper Tweed. It is good to have an all through line that runs through the rings on the shorter casts at pool necks, whilst under loaded for distance and at the same time load the rod fully for the longer casts. The smaller the river the greater this range of distance needs to be considered. I fished the Halladale up in Caithness couple of years ago and found this same idea applied to the 11ft3" switch rod set-up. Windy place there so opt for a heavier line, shorter pools can be fished with a continuous through joint, longer pools with the rod loaded and head fully out. So I made up a custom welded joint with a Mick Bell line and shortened it an extra three feet during the week, just for that river. The smaller river set-up is more complicated than the Spey/Tay/Ness big river scenario. We have a slower flow here on the Tweed and combined with the option of fast fishing a Sunray Shadow - the shorter Scandi/Skagit set up is the preferred option, not the same on faster rivers. Malcolm
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