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Post by owen on Feb 5, 2008 13:24:20 GMT
In a further attempt to run before I can walk I was reading with interest an article about the extra work required to rollcast sink tips to the surface before a single spey and came across a discussion on a cast which sounded like it used the beginning of a snake roll to bring the sinktip up, with the rotation of a single spey to arrive at a traditional single spey anchor point. The article called it the 3M cast (Mark Miller Maneuver ) and was on Speypages in 2002. I fish with sink tips and would be interested if anyone could explain to me how this works. Although my single spey is still shoddy, my snake rolling is coming on a treat and if there was a continuous motion to get to a single spey anchor which avoids roll casting I'd like to give it a shot. Thanks y'all, Nolon.
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Post by storlaks on Feb 5, 2008 14:50:43 GMT
Do you mean this? It does generate good linespeed when done correctly. I personally don't use this cast very often. I prefer just to roll the tip to the surface and then single spey.
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Post by Speyducer on Feb 5, 2008 16:09:50 GMT
I was taught a similar cast in the 80's - called the Blackwater Loop. There was supposed to be a video of it (long before youtube!), but I never did manage to get a copy.
If I remember correctly, it was Connie Corcoran out of the Blackater Lodge, Co. Waterford, Eire, and I was shown this initially with a specially cut & spliced floating line as it was easier to teach with the floater, but it would be equally applicable to the s'tipped lines.
Mike
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owen
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Post by owen on Feb 5, 2008 18:09:30 GMT
storlaks, Thanks for that, looks like the description certainly, must take a careful balance to keep the spiral in a fairly straight line, would imagine a lot of lateral movement would make the anchor a bit trickly to land....hmm, cant really picture how this will work out, will just have to give it a go! Mike, Will have a look for the backwater loop too & will let you know if I find anything. Thanks.
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Post by speyghillie on Feb 5, 2008 19:23:42 GMT
storlaks, ...hmm, cant really picture how this will work out, will just have to give it a go! ; Nolon, just make sure you untangle yourself in time for your trip North....
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Post by owen on Feb 8, 2008 13:41:21 GMT
Jock, Oh ye of little faith. No need to fear, I'm out tomorrow on a beat with plenty of room so should have most of the rough edges taken off before I see you. You might want to practice ducking and recovering flies from trees in the meantime though....just in case. Cheers, Nolon.
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Post by fredaevans on Mar 19, 2008 16:51:33 GMT
Do you mean this? It does generate good linespeed when done correctly. I personally don't use this cast very often. I prefer just to roll the tip to the surface and then single spey. Plain missed this thread. The caster in the video is Dana Sturm (Spey Pages web board). The cast (a single or double spiril was made popular here in the PNW by Mr. Steve Chote. Steve's name may ring a bell as he won the Musto Spey casting championship a few years back. His fishing/casting partner Dr. Way Yin has placed third at least twice ....... using a 15' rod no less! Fred
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