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Post by jamesr2007 on Nov 23, 2007 19:38:43 GMT
I think that the 7 rates seen me fine. I fish typically in the summer months on the Whiteadder when the water's low and controlling fish hasn't been a problem. The rods a powerful 10 footer.
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Post by G Ritchie on Nov 23, 2007 20:01:31 GMT
A seven weight is more than enough for summer use in low water. I pick up quite a few salmon late in the evening or at first light on sea trout single handers, usually a Sage RPL 11 1/4 ft ~6 or a Sage RPL 10ft #7. They have proved to be more than capable at handling any salmon I have hooked on them yet, up to over 15lb. Saying that a short double hander of around 13ft would be a useful addition for higher water.
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Post by salmonking on Nov 23, 2007 20:05:30 GMT
I think that the 7 rates seen me fine. I fish typically in the summer months on the Whiteadder when the water's low and controlling fish hasn't been a problem. The rods a powerful 10 footer. The 7 wt is the reason you took 20 mins to land the 12lbr,,what if that fish was not a takable fish? I still don't think it;s the tool for the job. |
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Post by tweedsider on Nov 23, 2007 22:08:19 GMT
Most likely you will lose fewer fish with the lighter rod, but what SK says is true regarding the time taken to play a fish which may be returned. !3ft 9-10 is ideal for a Whiteadder sized river both for playing fish and ease of covering the water. Nae false cast son yin whoosh an its oot.
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Post by salmonking on Nov 24, 2007 0:55:59 GMT
Tweedsider,,how is it more likely you will lose fewer fish with a smaller rod?,,i would say the opposite,,bigger rod higher line rating
less time faffing about playing the fish,,means less chance of losing it,a 7 wt is too light for salmon end of story,,it's salmon we are fishing for not trout.
A very experienced angler can manage a 7 wt yes ,that's what i started with many years ago,,i soon realized it was no good for salmon,,and yes i have landed many salmon in the past with this
but in the interest of fair play ,,it is inadequate.
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Post by tweedsider on Nov 24, 2007 7:43:07 GMT
Dont know SK but would put it down to less pressure on hook hold, of all the salar and st I have hooked accidentally while trout fishing over a 40 year period vary few have been lost. In fact this past season I would loose more on the 13ft rod than for all times previously. The rod mostly used for this was rated 5-6, the 11lb st rod most likely 4-5.
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Post by lamson on Nov 24, 2007 11:11:15 GMT
Perhaps not so much the aftma of the rod and fish size that is the issue as the fish size and water conditions ie if you are not having to fight a current , just the fish ,# 7 is okay.
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Post by conwyrod on Nov 24, 2007 11:40:16 GMT
Perhaps not so much the aftma of the rod and fish size that is the issue as the fish size and water conditions ie if you are not having to fight a current , just the fish ,# 7 is okay. Lamson I agree Steve. I've only caught about 5 salmon on singlehanders, but all were on 10' #7 rods, and the fish were all 7 -8lb range in lowish water. Can't say I struggled too much to get the fish in, but you'd have no chance if a 10lb+ fish took off into a fast current - I'm sure we've all struggled to hold fish on the DH before! I understand where Col is coming from though. People tend to use #8 rods for bigger sea trout, and a #8 would help to 'kill' a salmon quicker. |
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Post by hornet on Nov 24, 2007 12:58:43 GMT
Colin, Don't agree there mate. All the fish i have caught on the North & South Esks which are slightly bigger rivers than your wee Whitt have been on my 11ft Greyflex M2 7wt. Never had a problem in fighting fish especially Springers and never had a problem in returning them. The Greyflex is a cracking rod for small to medium rivers. Sporting, Now define this when talking about trying to catch Salmon or Sea Trout. Is it the ability to basically hook up and whang the fish in as fast as possible. or Hook up, fight the fish against rod, reel and the current. Feel every head shake, dive, run and jumping out of the water. Then after all this you watch your fish swim away to fight another day. So what is better  . Cheers Hornet |
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Post by salmonking on Nov 24, 2007 18:38:29 GMT
Is it the ability to basically hook up and whang the fish in as fast as possible. or Hook up, fight the fish against rod, reel and the current. Feel every head shake, dive, run and jumping out of the water. Then after all this you watch your fish swim away to fight another day. So what is better . Cheers Hornet Joe ,,read falkus on salmon,,what he says about Americans using under rated rods,,,you still get the fight you describe,but in a shorter time period,,,ok if your chapping fish i suppose,but in this day and age 7 wt is out of date. [/quote] |
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Post by hornet on Nov 24, 2007 19:44:11 GMT
Sorry Col i haven't read any of his books.
I prefer what I'm doing until i feel i need to change.
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Post by walter mepps on Nov 24, 2007 20:12:15 GMT
some helmut?
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Post by jamesr2007 on Dec 6, 2007 20:37:08 GMT
I appreciate your point SK, but I do stand by the choice of rod for low summer levels on a small river as it covers the water more than adequately. It's the rod I fish with in the summer and given that I don't fish when the water's high or at the back end of the season, I feel it's the right choice.
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