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Post by bryan91 on Jul 16, 2012 9:21:54 GMT
Awryt ther names bryan am just starting fly firhing for salmon what flies would i use
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Post by bryan91 on Jul 16, 2012 9:57:54 GMT
It is the river irvine i fish at the irvine beats any advise would be great thanks
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dunkeld
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Post by dunkeld on Jul 16, 2012 10:03:09 GMT
Awryt ther names bryan am just starting fly firhing for salmon what flies would i use Hi Bryan. A good starting point would be what river(s) you intend fishing. But as a rule of thumb, at this time of year, assuming the river isn't in spate, some wee doubles size 12/14s Patterns would include: Cascades or ally shrimps, Stoats Tail Silver Stoat Willei Gunn Jock Scott Flame throwers (various colours) Stinchar Stoat seems to work well on the ayreshire rivers. But if your starting out, what rod and lines do you have ?
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Post by sinkingtip on Jul 16, 2012 10:29:56 GMT
Hi Bryan - welcome to the forum. Good advice from Dunkeld.
Choices of fly patterns are huge with more and more 'variations' on existing patterns happening on what seems like a weekly basis - and why not ? ;D
As a card carrying Luddite I would suggest that you think about 'sombre' flies such as Stoats Tail variants (Executioner for example) for low clear water and flies such as Cascade's and Ally's Shrimps for 'coloured' water as a starting point.
Don't feel as if you have to every pattern imaginable - settle for 3 or 4 patterns you have confidence in and stick with these - albeit in varying sizes.
As you are fishing Ayrshire rivers I would suggest a simple Stinchar Stoat which can be fished effectively in both clear and coloured water - as can a great many flies !! Keep it simple. Good luck.
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Post by allysshrimp on Jul 16, 2012 11:17:51 GMT
Don't feel as if you have to every pattern imaginable - settle for 3 or 4 patterns you have confidence in and stick with these - albeit in varying sizes. Welcome to the forum Bryan. Great advice given by Dunkeld & STip on fly patterns, the above for me though is the most important. There is no need to have your box festooned with loads of different patterns, you will just end up spending more time through the day changing Flee's rather than fishing.
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Post by salmo on Jul 16, 2012 11:26:13 GMT
Keep it simple. Good luck. That's worth repeating. It is easy to get hung up on worrying that you need a vast array of flies to be successful when you can get by with a couple of patterns in a couple of sizes. A quick reccy of the beat and a chat with local anglers is as good as anything to see is in vogue on a particular river. Other than that the local tackle shop may have some insight into which flies are catching. If you use the same fly pattern that someone else has just caught a fish on there is no guarantee of connecting with a fish but it gives you the confidence to persevere. Good luck!
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Post by bryan91 on Jul 16, 2012 11:32:38 GMT
Thanks for the advise am still looking into the rods what would you recomend for a double hand fly rod am not rushing into things and going buying the first one i see thanks bryan
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Post by deedon on Jul 16, 2012 11:50:14 GMT
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Post by flamethrower123 on Jul 16, 2012 13:28:45 GMT
Awryt ther names bryan am just starting fly firhing for salmon what flies would i use Hi Bryan. A good starting point would be what river(s) you intend fishing. But as a rule of thumb, at this time of year, assuming the river isn't in spate, some wee doubles size 12/14s Patterns would include: Cascades or ally shrimps, Stoats Tail Silver Stoat Willei Gunn Jock Scott Flame throwers (various colours) Stinchar Stoat seems to work well on the ayreshire rivers. But if your starting out, what rod and lines do you have ? dunkeld right i fish the irvine wouldnt go much bigger 8 than when the water clearing and down to a 14 in low water conditions the only tube l use is the red devil 1" long nae need for nothing fancy down here
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